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Re: [Clojadelphia] SICP, discussion consolidation, and the Google Group

From: David K.
Sent on: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:55 AM
I agree that having just the one place for the discussions makes the most sense.  And meetup's discussion board works fine as long as one uses an interface that takes care of the threading (e.g. gmail).


On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Tim Visher <[address removed]> wrote:
FWIW, I would vote to kill the Google Group as it's only marginally
better than Meetups lists, IMHO. But that's only my 2¢.

On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Paul Snyder <[address removed]> wrote:
> Unfortunately, things may be getting even more scattered for the
> discussions of SICP. As was brought up during tonight's SICP 1.1 session,
> some are buried in event discussions, some are on the Clojadelphia meetup
> main discussion list, and some are in the SICP-specific Google Group...and
> posts to the Google Group are not getting responses.
>
> I just discovered that, when I joined the Google Group, my settings
> defaulted to "no email delivery", so I had no idea that anyone was actually
> sending messages to the list.  Simply trying to find my way back to the
> Google Group was a pain.
>
> I'm not at all a fan of Meetup's approach to discussion...it is difficult
> to navigate, and by its nature it facilitates fragmentation and shallow
> online conversations. This is even worse once the Google Group is added
> into the mix, since many people who may be interested in the SICP
> discussions may not be members of the Google Group. The splintering of some
> of the discussions to sublists also reduces the coherence of the
> community.
>
> I'm much more a fan of having everyone receive everything, and if they
> aren't interested in particular things they can simply delete the messages
> they don't find relevant, create a filter, or set digest mode to wrap
> multiple messages into a single email. The result is that community members
> have an ambient awareness of the types of conversations that are happening,
> along with the personalities of those who are participating in them. This
> helps build a strong community.
>
> I'm not sure what the solution is, but if we're sticking with the current
> setup I'd suggest:
>
>   (a) Making sure that links to the Google Group are prominent in all SICP-
>   related Meetup announcements.
>
>   (b) When someone makes a useful SICP-related post and sends it to the
>   Clojadelphia group, someone should suggest that he or she should cc: it
>   to the Google Group.
>
>   (c) If you're subscribed to the Google Group and do not regularly access
>   the web interface, make sure you've set one of the email notification
>   options so you stay abreast of new discussions.
>
>   (d) All discussions of *scheduling* of times for SICP meetups should be
>   done through the Meetup site (or at least cc'd to the main Clojadelphia
>   meetup discussion list).
>
> Annoyingly, the awful Google Groups web interface makes it almost
> impossible to figure out how to send messages to it via email. Once you're
> subscribed, email can be sent to
>
>   [address removed]
>
> For general Clojadelphia discussion, the main Meetup mailing list address
> is
>
>   [address removed]
>
> Paul
>
>
>
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