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A.Einstein And R.Tagore On The Nature Of Reality

Oleg
user 10207312
London, GB
Post #: 31
Amazing!!!

Albert Einstein: Do you believe in the Divine as isolated from the world?

Rabindranath Tagore (The Nobel Prize in Literature, 1913): Not isolated. The infinite personality of Man comprehends the Universe. There cannot be anything that cannot be subsumed by the human personality, and this proves that the truth of the Universe is human truth. I have taken a scientific fact to explain this. Matter is composed of protons and electrons, with gaps between them, but matter may seem to be solid without the links in spaces which unify the individual electrons and protons. Similarly, humanity is composed of individuals, yet they have their interconnection of human relationship, which gives living unity to man’s world. The entire universe is linked up with us, as individuals, in a similar manner – it is a human universe.

… Science has proved that the table as a solid object is an appearance and therefore that which the human mind perceives as a table would not exist if that mind were naught. At the same time it must be admitted that the fact that the ultimate physical reality is nothing but a multitude of separate revolving centres of electric force, also belongs to the human mind. In the apprehension of truth there is an eternal conflict between the universal human mind and the same mind confined in the individual. The perpetual process of reconciliation is being carried on in our science, philosophy, and in our ethics. In any case, if there be any truth absolutely unrelated to humanity, then for us it is absolutely non-existing.
A former member
Post #: 14
It is a bit frustrating reading this because I don't know if Rabindranath is just speaking poetically. Perhaps he has direct mystic insight into the matter? Einstein seems to believe in an independant reality, Rabindranath that man is the measure of all things. Scientist v Poet! But then if we are to avoid dualism, I suppose reality alone exists. This reality must then explain both consciousness AND the workings of the material universe. So in that case, Einstein perhaps means that man cannot dictate to reality, but only because we ARE that reality and cannot dictate to ourselves. Rabindranath, on the other hand, may mean that there is no reality separate from man's higher self that can dictate to man (other than his own true nature). I believe Einstein & Rabindranath are therefore both right from their own points of view.
Oleg
user 10207312
London, GB
Post #: 47
Hi Dean

Have you come across Pierre Teilhard de Chardin ?

(1881-1955, a French theologist and philosopher, one of the developers of the Noosphere theory): His theory is founded on the ideas of Plotinus (205-270) about the emanation of the One (an incognizable Primary Essence, characterized as Goodness) into the Mind and the universal Soul, with the consequent transformation again into the One. According to Plotinus, first the One exudes the universal Mind, which consists of a world of ideas, then the Mind produces a universal Soul, which splits into separate souls and creates a sensitive world. Matter emerges as the lowest degree of the emanation. When the creatures of the sensitive world reach a certain degree of development, they recognize their own incompleteness and strive for a union. Subsequently, they attain adhesion with the One.

According to de Chardin, man strives to enter the sphere of the Mind and to dissolve in God. Evolution did not end with the human being as an individual, but rather proceeds as humanity unites into societies with a growing differentiation of individual functions and as a result, a growing degree of interconnection.

Kind Regards
Oleg
A former member
Post #: 27
Hi Oleg

Yes, I have heard a little of Pierre Teilhard. Teleology comes to mind (a theory to cause Richard Dawkins to throw a fit). Not all scientists believe in evolution through natural selection. There are fossil records that some researchers claim indicates otherwise.

Regards
Dean
Oleg
user 10207312
London, GB
Post #: 77
Hi Dean

Have you read the book of Professor Ervin Laszlo and Professor Michael Laitman, they have wrote the book
From Chaos to Harmony: The Solution to the Global Crisis According to the Wisdom of Kabbalah.

Free copy is here.

http://www.kabbalahme...­

Kind Regards
Oleg
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