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Re: [atheists-27] Why aren't atheists more tribal

From: Norm
Sent on: Saturday, March 30, 2013 1:00 AM
Careful. Your perception of reality could be more accurate, but it seems to be more accurate then most. That being said, I suggest that you consider these points.
- Raising children is a natural part of life. It keeps you grounded.
- Children are an extension of you if raised properly.  The more of you, the better chance you have of reducing the crazy behavior that is threatening the extinction of the human race.
- Because we are able to more accurately perceive reality, our minds are much clearer
which gives us a huge advantage.
- We can't give up because the extinction of the human race is at stake.

- Don't spin your wheels by debating or arguing. State your perception of reality and move on. Those who are able to correctly perceive reality will understand. The others will just slow down your quest to provide accurate information
- Of course, be sure that any perception of reality that you have can be easily proven to a mind that is not clouded by tribal belief systems (religion, culture, politics, and philosophies).
- Work on solving the problems of today and let the natural evolution of those solutions dictate our future. Creating behaviors for the sake of an ideal future only makes our current problems worse.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chad <[address removed]>
To: atheists-27 <[address removed]>
Sent: Fri, Mar 29,[masked]:36 am
Subject: [atheists-27] Why aren't atheists more tribal

Fellow Atheists,

Recently I deepened and expanded my carbon footprint, drastically decreased my restful hours of sleep while sky rocketing my stress level, hastened my life expectancy, ruined my sex life, and snuffed out all my once flowing free time: I became a father.  As my testosterone levels mercifully lowered in my middle aged years I felt calm, smarter than younger would be fathers, and well positioned to handle the product of passing along my 23 chromosomes. I know it's a cliché but I was wrong and smacked hard by reality.  
What I naively failed to consider was the complexity of the whole parenting experience especially in the face of drastic climate change and population growth.  How difficult will life be in twenty years with a global population exceeding 8.5 billion and the continued effects of global warming?  If humans stave off all the potential calamities of global warming then what about living in an overpopulated world with a drastically reduced need for workers?  Companies will continually increase efficiency by automating production.  For example: machines are already performing most of the diagnostics in automobile repair.  Automating the actual repairs is not such a far leap.  How much more will this steady progression  limit the real opportunities for my daughter?   
Perhaps  I am whining too much.  After all, it was a choice to have her in the first place.  I was not compelled by religion, animal instinct, or a selfish desire to carry on my partner's name.  It just seemed like a wonderful idea at the time.  My mom lied; being a parent is not such a seemless joy. If she were alive I would have a few cross words for her.
 Increasingly I get spooked  by things like (but not limited to) public schools, the girl scouts, Monsanto Industries, Evangelicalism lead poisoning, gun nuts, US domestic and foreign policy, anti-abortion activism, libertarians, my daughter having irregular bowel movements, the Metro, and other people's babies. What is a paranoid atheist father to do? I am, often times, overwhelmed by the issues and problems facing this planet.  Do some of my fellows in this group have any of the same concerns as new parents? Is having children today short sighted and selfish?
Perhaps one could find some amount of bliss in a generous medical marijuana subscription and a minor lobotomy...  


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