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Re: [atheists-662] A letter as it appears in today's News Journal/delawareonline

From: Dave M.
Sent on: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 8:02 AM
Well Dave, as with all my letters to the editor, all I'm trying to do is educate (enlighten?). With the last paragarph, I decided to place the onus on believers. Yes, politics and economics play a huge role but I'm just trying to get people to think. Dave

From: Dave Vallee <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11,[masked]:01 PM
Subject: Re: [atheists-662] A letter as it appears in today's News Journal/delawareonline

I love the passion. I'd like to offer a slightly different, maybe significantly so, perspective on the motives as a root cause.

No one could argue against the conclusion that religion has been a huge obstruction to the progression of science in all its forms - medicine, astronomy, physiology, geology, you name it. We would be so much further along if it weren't for religion. But I just want to re-categorize things a bit. The response of the church to the non-Earth centric solar system theory, civil rights, the equality of women, and evolution can't even be credited to a devotion to their theology, or to a historical philosophy that they believe has great value for humanity.

What it truly boils down to is politics and economics. The ideas that challenge their established doctrine threaten their political power, which if diminished, would lead to a loss in revenue. They have violently, and murderously fought against any idea or theory that threatens their political power. Just as they covered up the  molestation of children by priests, and would have continued to do so until they got caught, they will fight anything they deem a threat to the church's power, regardless of its terrible impact on the lives of anyone, even its own members. Ouroboros.

So don't be fooled into debating with someone on the motives of the church when it comes to such matters. They're just a bunch of guys behaving badly.

Dave
On 6/11/2013 7:58 AM, Dave Martin wrote:
I read, with great interest, the debate swirling around the issue of marriage equality in Delaware. It's obvious the only opposition to the issue came from religion. Those opposed to the measure cited scripture, words written thousands of years ago during a time of fear and ignorance of the natural world, in justification of their position. What especially raised my ire was a Delaware Voice column authored by 28 presumably educated heterosexual men. These religious leaders used the Bible as their defense, a book based on myths and parables that should have no bearing on modern life.
 
Religion has obstructed human progress for centuries. Copernicus and Galileo defied church authority by suggesting Earth was not the center of the universe. Galilieo was forced to recant and spent the rest of his life under house arrest. Africans remained in bondage due to Old and New Testament passages. Women were denied equality for the same reasons. Darwin was villified for his observations that life wasn't spontaneously created 6,000 years ago but, rather, evolved from earlier forms over an immense span of time. Despite religious oppostion, another biblical obstacle was breached when Gov. Markell signed marriage equality into law. What will it take for people to realize the fallacy of their beliefs? 
 
Without reliance on the myths and parables of the Bible, I challenge readers of this letter, especiallyreligious leaders, to examine their beliefs and convictions objectivelyand publicly explain their belief in God, again by looking at their beliefs/convictions objectively without relying on the Bible. In another words, looking in from outside.
 
David C. Martin
Delaware Association
for Humanism
Wilmington
  






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