We are a fun, eclectic group of gay men and women who like to do half day or full day rides on weekends. Sundays often work best for most of us but some of us do Saturday rides when we can. We are not a formal club. We are a group of riders sharing the love of riding. We're always looking for new editions to our group. Our bikes are a mix of cruisers and sport bikes. What you ride doesn't matter. Come ride with us!
*** TO ALL PROSPECTIVE NEW MEMBERS: PLEASE BE SURE TO READ THE ENTIRE GROUP DESCRIPTION AND TERMS OF MEMBERSHIP AS OUTLINED BELOW. WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU GIVE A BRIEF DESCRIPTION ABOUT YOURSELF AND YOUR RIDE. WE TELL YOU ABOUT US AND WE'D LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE ABOUT YOU SO THAT WE CAN KNOW IF THIS GROUP IS FOR YOU. WE ALWAYS LOVE TO GET NEW MEMBERS , HOWEVER THIS IS A RIDING GROUP FOR MOTORCYCLE RIDERS. IF YOU ARE A NON-RIDER OR SOMEONE WHO OWNS A BIKE AND DOESN'T ACTUALLY RIDE, YOU MAY FIND A BETTER FIT IN A DIFFERENT MEETUP GROUP. ***
INFO FOR NEW MEMBERS:
1. Motorcycle riding is an inherently dangerous sport. As a group, we strive to minimize the risks associated with riding, however, as is the case with solo riding, any group riding with us is done at your own risk. We assume that you have the sufficient experience to safely ride and the variety of roads that we often travel. This would include the more challenging mountain roads in the area. This riding group of any of it's individual members shall in no way be held responsible for any mishaps or accidents you may experience while on a group ride. If there are any questions or concerns about the riding styles of other members, it is your obligation to immediately address them with the other rider or alternatively bring them up to me or one of the other senior members. By joining this group, you are agreeing to HOLD HARMLESS the group and all of it's individual members from any and all claims due to any and all accidents or mishaps that may occur while riding with us.
2. We are a responsible, adult group of riders but your own personal safety is your responsibility. We do not have any requirements other than riding respectfully in appropriate formation as conditions dictate. This includes asking the more leisurely-oriented riders to take a rear position as we sometimes split into a faster and a slower group depending on the group size and roads we are riding. We have a mix of experience levels and riding styles but do expect everyone to respect the group's safety and not ride in a manner that may put others in danger.
3. Dues are $20 a year payable on the first regular business day of January. There is a grace period that extends to January 31st. Members who have not paid by the 31st will be removed from the roster but welcomed to reapply for membership if desired. Members of our sister group, the San Diego Cruisers, who have since become members of the Desert Pigs are exempt. For new members, note that dues will not be collected upon membership approval; they will be payable in January as detailed above.
4. We are always happy to have new members and look forward to riding with them but in the interest of privacy of the group and it's individual members, anyone who joins the site and does not participate in any of the rides or discussions for a period of three months will be unsubscribed. Additionally, note that this is a RIDING GROUP, not a dating a dating site or an advertising site. Anyone posting unauthorized advertisements will be removed from the group and denied reentry. This site is not free; it is paid for by member donations. If you offer motorcycles related products or services and would like to become a sponsor, please contact the Organizer or the Co-Organizer. Active members (meaning those who have participated in rides or discussions) are permitted to offer their own PERSONAL motorcycle for sale to other members as we sometimes do have members looking for a new ride.
5. We are an open-minded and progressive group. We pride ourselves in the diversity and brotherhood that this group represents. However, we do reserve the right to deny anyone admission to the group for any reason. Furthermore, in the unlikely event that there are issues with an existing member, we reserve the right to terminate that individual's membership if the majority of the active members see fit.
GROUP RIDING AND RESPONSIBILITIES:
This is important information for the safety and enjoyment of the entire group. It is not meant to embarrass anyone or make them feel uncomfortable. We should be relaxed and having fun but not at the expense of the group. We all have our own way of riding when we are alone. In a group, though, we need to ride appropriately so that we not only ride safely for ourselves, but in a predictable, organized way for the safety of our fellow riders. Group riding has some compromises but sharing the experience with other riders makes it worth it. Out on the road, we can't afford to put up with any habits that detract from the safety of the group.
1. Staggered formation- We all know what this is. This brings us closer together and still allows us to maintain a safe distance between riders. It makes us more of a unit and therefore more visible to automobile drivers. It also allows better visibility among ourselves and with the lead. If someone feels they cannot ride in a particular lane position, it is their responsibility to position appropriately among the other riders. Of course, there will be times when single file is appropriate: the mountain roads and any other time the road surface is poor or the the road is narrow. This can be made complicated by hand signals from the leader, but I think we can all use our common sense. If the rider in front of moves to the center position, maybe you should too.
2. Distance between riders - Since we do have riders of different comfort levels and riding styles, often times this results in large gaps in a group. While we don't want to leave anyone behind, but those who feel more comfortable maintaining an extra distance should be at the back of the group.
3. Speed - Our target speed should be close to the speed limit most of the time. This is largely dependent upon the lead, that's true. Of course, common sense is necessary, but a max of 5 mph over the posted limit in general, isn't bad. Going "through town" where limits are more closely enforced, we stick to the limit. Occasionally we may open up a little on the wide open stretches like in DHS. If anyone wants to go faster, break from the group and we’ll meet you at the destination. There are some of us who are more comfortable at slower speeds. Please honestly assess your own personal riding style and skill level and those who wish to ride slower please position yourselves toward the back and faster riders toward the front. Again, we don't want to leave anyone behind, but when the entire group is riding too slow, not only can it be frustrating but also hazardous to everyone. There may be times where the slower riders in the back do fall behind, but in the interest of the safety and enjoyment of the entire group, we do not slow the whole group down or pull over and wait. Everyone always knows the destination and we all have cell phones we can use if necessary. (If any member does not have my phone number, let me know and I'll give it to you) We will all get to where we're going whether some members arrive soon or some later.
4. Intersections - This is a big judgement call, but ideally, the lead will wait until we are all at the intersection and the "coast is clear" and we'll all move through the intersection, without stopping, as a group. That being said, always be very aware of the rider in front of you. Even though we all want to pass through the intersection together, there's always a possibility that person may feel it necessary to slow or stop. The larger the group, the more likely we will get split into smaller units, but each group should stay together and we will reform the whole group up the road if possible or at the next rest stop.
5. Passing - I have been passed by other riders too closely and even sometimes on the right. This is very startling and the first impulse might be to swerve or hit the brakes. If for whatever reason, you feel you need to pass, please do it properly by pulling out into the opposite lane when it's safe and execute the pass in a smooth, predictable way. Remember though, that you're pass will most likely cause your fellow riders to have to adjust their lane positions.
6. Pulling over on the side of the road - This will not be done unless absolutely necessary. We plan our rest stops ahead of time and in general, avoid making impromptu stops unless it's a long ride and we agree before the ride to do that. If someone needs to pull over for some important reason, that's fine, but riders should proceed to the next agreed upon stopping point. If a rider has a problem with their bike, they can call me or someone else and we'll talk to them when we are safely stopped. Any riders behind the rider pulling off can also stop if it’s safe, but again, we won’t be stopping as a group nor will we all be turning around. We will still reach our destination and we will address the stopped rider's problem as soon as we can. Safety of all riders should always take precedence over the need to "stick together".
7. Departure times - These times are always posted with each ride. Our goal is to leave at the posted time. Most of us have other things to do later in the day. We attend the rides assuming they will start and finish at certain times. Riders should show up a few minutes early if they want to chat.If you show up “on time”, expect the group to be geared up and ready to go. The group MIGHT decide to wait a FEW minutes for a latecomer, but that won’t be a guarantee. Most likely we will be on our way and latecomers will have to meet us either at a stopping point or the final destination.
Our rides are always fun and relaxing. However, if there’s any issues, everyone and anyone should feel free to bring them up without worrying about offending someone.
**For any questions or additional information, please feel free to contact the Organizer through this site.**
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