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Re: [ruby-81] SF Sr. Rails Salaries?

From: Billy
Sent on: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 1:31 PM
Also don't forget other things can have monetary value besides your salary. For instance, if you negotiate for 3 weeks of vacation instead of the standard 1 (at least when joining a company) and you make $100k a year, that's worth $4k. If you can negotiate working from home some days, that is saved money on commuting AND you get to work in your underwear. If your company offers free breakfast, or snacks, and that is something you'd get anyway, then you save. If you can skip some companies 'must wait 1 year before we match 401k', that is a ton of money if you contribute your maximum. If they get special discounts on phones, etc. If it's OK for you to come in at 11 and leave at 7 ... etc. All of these things if lacking an explicit monetary value certainly do have value, and may be worth taking a slightly lower salary so that you have a more enjoyable work life.



On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Noah <[address removed]> wrote:
The links to the graph and infographic are broken, leaving the article pretty low-content.


From: Joseph <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24,[masked]:33 PM
Subject: Re: [ruby-81] SF Sr. Rails Salaries?

Hey everyone - Here is an article about salaries that was published in VentureBeat, with a breakdown of the programming language as well as the years of experience. Hope this helps!


Cheers!

Joe

(disclosure - I work at this firm.)

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On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 11:45 AM, cody voellinger <[address removed]> wrote:
Mr Blaster, just wanted to share my thoughts since I speak to hiring companies and Bay Area engineers daily.

Assuming your company is a start-up, as a Team Lead, I would narrow the range to $[masked]k.  Of course there are companies that sit on both other sides of the extreme, but I would guess that 90% of companies fall into this range.

In general, start-ups ask us to stick within a[masked]k range when they are hiring jr-sr engineers, but as a Lead they may bump it up a bit.

These numbers can change depending on the stage of the start-up, with later stages generally having a bit more salary flexibility as there is less equity and more funding or revenue.

If my assumption is wrong and you are working for an established company,but just a small team, then ranges for a Principal/ Lead engineer may be more along the lines of[masked]k.

Hope this was helpful despite violating your No Recruiter plea.

Cody Voellinger
Founder | RockIT Recruiting | Careers Launched.
www.rockitrecruiting.com  
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On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Master Blaster <[address removed]> wrote:
I've been at my company in SF as a Rails developer for 4 years. In that time, salaries and cost of living have skyrocketed, and I feel that my salary today is worth far less than when I started. 

I am trying to get an idea of what a going salary is these days. I checked indeed and glassdoor and I feel like they are reporting all over the place, and that people who leave a company in anger may report their salaries lower than than actually are, to deter people from working at the company.

How much do you think a Sr. Rails developer with 7 years Rails experience (15 years total programming experience) who is the principal engineer in a team of 4, with tons of experience in scaling and large site development (The one I am currently on gets 10 million hits to the backend per week, and can handle 20k RPM via newrelic) should be looking for in terms of salary? The ones I am seeing range from $120k to $190k .. but I am turning to you guys to help me better prepare myself before I go in to salary negotiations. This is for San Francisco proper.

Please feel free to email me privately at [address removed] if you don't want to post to publicly to this list. I will not share your name or the information you provide. This is of course an anonymous email account :) Also recruiters, please don't email me. I know you want to tell me how much you think you can place people for -- but I'll pass. Thanks in advance!




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