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Re: [ljc] Girl/women/lady programmers

From: Michael B.
Sent on: Friday, November 18, 2011 1:36 PM
It certainly seems higher than the representation at Devoxx, which I
would unscientifically put at 1 in 20 to 30.

Mike.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Zoe Slattery <[address removed]> wrote:
> That is an interesting statistic - it's a higher percentage of women than
> I'd expect based on my perception of numbers of women programmers.
> Z
>
> Hi Trish,
> Barry asked me to pass on the info below -
> In the last 12 months - 1 in 7 of our placements were female.
> Hope that helps!,
> Anji
> On 17 Nov 2011, at 23:15, John Stevenson wrote:
>
> Have you thought of running some kind of poll / stats for the LJC ?
>
> John.
>
> On 17 November[masked]:39,­ Trisha <[address removed]> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks John,
>>
>> I've seen that sort of information before, I've been reading the UK
>> stats for SET (Science Engineering Technology) grads / jobs.  I can
>> find out a reasonable amount about women "in IT" but I'm specifically
>> interested in programmers.  For example, a lot of girl programmers
>> leave it to become BAs, PMs, technical writers, but they still count
>> as being in IT.  I'm interested in programming specifically, but I'll
>> take tech archs because sometimes we have to put up with promotions.
>>
>> Trisha
>>
>> On 16 November[masked]:46,­ John Stevenson <[address removed]>
>> wrote:
>> > A few more facts for you below and there is also a lengthy report on
>> > widening women's work in ICT which you may be able to find some stats,
>> > although they may be a little dated.
>> >
>> > Women in the IT industry (from the Women and Equality Unit)
>> >
>> > The IT industry is currently facing a skills shortage in a number of
>> > areas -
>> > it is keen to recruit qualified engineers, technicians and software
>> > developers.
>> >
>> > Despite this factor, the number of women working in the industry is
>> > falling.
>> > Recent statistics show that women make up a fifth of employees in the
>> > whole
>> > IT sector. When you look at specific jobs involving the development and
>> > production of technology, the figure drops still further.
>> >
>> > In 1997, women made up 27% of those working in the IT sector. By 2003
>> > that
>> > figure had dropped to 20%.
>> >
>> > Within the sector, women make up 27% of database assistants and clerks,
>> > but
>> > only 7% of IT strategy and planning professionals
>> >
>> > Women make up less than a quarter of computer science graduates in the
>> > UK
>> >
>> > Over the ten years to 2002,the number of girls taking technology at
>> > A-level
>> > increased by just over a third
>> >
>> > Girls consistently outperform boys (albeit marginally) at A-level
>> > technology
>> >
>> > In the UK, girls tend to disengage from IT subjects between the ages of
>> > 11
>> > and 15.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > John.
>> >
>> > On 16 November[masked]:31,­ John Stevenson <[address removed]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hello Trisha,
>> >> I found some interesting "facts" on in the enterprise,
>> >> not strictly techies­, but perhaps interesting anyway as many techies
>> >> would
>> >> like to run their own business:
>> >> http://www.womens...­
>> >> Thanks
>> >> John
>> >>
>> >> On 16 November[masked]:19,­ Trisha <[address removed]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi everyone,
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm interested in gathering data, anecdotal or "real" stats, on the
>> >>> percentage of women techies out there - architects, DBAs, developers,
>> >>> etc.  If you have actual data that you can share, could you send it to
>> >>> me?
>> >>>
>> >>> If you don't have anything like that, but can provide me with some
>> >>> anecdotal info about the number/percentage of women in your
>> >>> team/company, that would be very handy too.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Trisha
>> >
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