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Re: [ljc] "I've never been a true believer in the Agile method"

From: Ged B.
Sent on: Friday, June 14, 2013 2:23 PM
My own Core Principles are taken from Pratchett:
  * First Sight - see what is really there
  * Second Thoughts - think about thinking

I'm thinking of calling it the "Widdershins Way"

On 14 June[masked]:05, @sleepyfox <[address removed]> wrote:
Core principles of Agile, Lean, the Learning Organisation et. al. are:
* Respect for People
* Continual Improvement

There are others, but these are the ones that for me are at the foundation of great teams.

I don't care whether you call it Agile, or something else. 

I certainly agree with Ged that to believe that we have already achieved the Zenith of Software Development perfection is (at best) folly.


On 14 June[masked]:27, Ged Byrne <[address removed]> wrote:
Because I want facts, not opinions.  I certainly don't want beliefs.  Only placebo's require belief.  "Belief" is what I object to, not "Agile."

Because In the beginning it was about uncovering better ways of developing software.  Now I have come to associate the "Agile" approach with dogma and mantra.  Many keep insisting that the best way to develop software has already been uncovered.  I think we still have a long way to go.

Because, to paraphrase Wilde, whenever everybody agrees with something I always feel it must be wrong.

On 14 June[masked]:11, Shaine <[address removed]> wrote:
Just for curiosity, why do you believe in the Agile method?

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