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Re: [ljc] "I've never been a true believer in the Agile method"

From: Abraham Marín P.
Sent on: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:30 AM
Hi Anatoli,

I'm curious about your reference about the 80% of projects failing, I'm not sure if I understood correctly but are you implying that 80% of non-software projects also fail? Intuitively I don't see 80% of new restaurants closing or 80% of new buildings collapsing, although I don't have any data about it; if you do I'll be honestly interested in checking it out.


Abraham Marín Pérez

Twitter: @AbrahamMarin

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On 18 Jun 2013, at 07:53, Anatoli <[address removed]> wrote:


Speaking about beliefs, how can anyone be a 'true believer' in anything in our industry? :) Just trying to define what Agile actually is will derail any discussion.

I 'believe' in common sense and competent people (at all levels, not just developers!) -- they can do it with waterfall just as good as they can do it with Agile (whatever that means!) or any other method. In fact, they will do it without any strictly defined method. They'll just do it as they have been doing it for decades.

Yes, we all know that 80% of all software projects end up in tears (which is actually consistent with the rest of the Universe so it's hardly a shocking or unusual statistic -- why should we be different from everybody else?), but obviously in 20% of cases people were getting it right :) Must be people and not the method which did the trick.


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