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Learn about Gasification

  • Jun 15, 2013 · 1:00 PM
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Perhaps you've seen one of those prepper TV shows where a guy was running his truck on wood, or using wood gas to power a generator. Did that seem amazingly useful to you? It did for me. That's why I spent the last year learning about biomass gasification.

In a "grid down" situation, where electricity and gasoline are virtually non-existent, the mere notion that one could gather up some woody brush, wood chips, or wood pellets, throw it into the gasifier hopper, and make an engine GO, is an extremely liberating idea.

Gasification is not a new technology. In Europe, during WWII, over 1 million vehicles were outfitted to run on wood gas because of the shortage on gasoline. Of course, those old gasifiers produced tarry, sticky gas that wasn't the best for engines... But those cars did go from point A to point B.

Don't fret. New gasifier technology virtually eliminates all tar, and produces gas that is very similar in quality to propane or natural gas.

I'll be explaining how gasification works, how to build your own gasifier, and all the safety measures needed to produce your own gas for vehicles / generators.

Topics Covered:

  • Gasification basics (how and why it works)
  • 4 stages of gasification (drying, pyrolysis, combustion, reduction)
  • Gasifier design (downdraft, updraft, imbert)
  • Fuel types (wood chips, chunks, etc.)
  • Approximate burn times & energy potential (kW)

By the end of May, I will have completed my gasifier, and will fire up a generator. We'll load test it with some energy-sucking power tools.

Update: There is a possibility that a donor truck (early 80's Chevy) may be available for a follow-up workshop, where we would demonstrate gasified transportation... Thanks Chris!

I hope to see you there.

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  • Debbie S.

    Troy, did you get my email? I want to put a small description/resume for Erik (Surveillence expert). Also, need to know a time slot for him to speak..I'm thinkng no more than 1 1/2 hours but he would know best. And you know when you want to start the gasification workshop which follows directly after the surveilance one. As soon as you have times set up, I'll add it to the Surveilence event so that people can start making plans to attend. Right now the gasification worshop for Aguanga is not listed anywhere because this one is listed in "past" meet ups so people won't know about it.

    June 24, 2013

  • Debbie S.

    Aguanga Gasification Workshop - July 13, 2013 - following the Surveillance workshop - Location: Ron and Debbie Skinners Ranch, 42480 Wilson Valley Road, Aguanga, CA 92536 http://www.meetup.com/MurrietaPreppers/events/101004072/

    June 22, 2013

  • Carey K.

    Great meet up, definitely enjoyed the presentation and also the tour of Troys place!

    June 20, 2013

  • Debbie S.

    Troy, let us know what date you want to hold the Aguanga workshop at our ranch. Also, wondering if there would be interest to also hold the Surveilance workshop on the same date. You had a friend that was an expert. Let us know. Ron is trying to reach you and lost your #.

    June 17, 2013

    • Carey K.

      Debbie, I would be very interested in attending the Surveillance workshop in conjunction with the gasification workshop. Would not mind seeing it again.

      1 · June 17, 2013

    • Debbie S.

      Great!

      June 17, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Wow! I didn't even realize a date was finally chosen for this!

    June 17, 2013

    • Debbie S.

      The Temecula workshop was on Saturday, but the Aguanga one doesn't have a date yet.

      June 17, 2013

  • Stella S.

    This was Father's Day weekend...so travel takes away many folks for obvious reasons. A FUTURE CLASS WHEN IT'S COOLER...AND IN THE AFTERNOON...like in September...WOULD PROBABLY HAVE BETTER ATTENDANCE. Sorry I missed this one; sounds like an awesome production. WILL YOU HAVE A SIGN POSTED ON THE ROAD to let folks "find" the place...since it's on a dirt road and google/map is unclear as to the actual entrance??? i WOULD LOVE TO ATTEND THE NEXT ONE...couldn't make it for this one due to travel plans...AND HAVING A "DUAL AGENDA" of a Security and Surveillance lecture would be awesome!!!!!!!

    June 17, 2013

  • Mark G.

    Bad timing for me.

    June 14, 2013

  • Margie K.

    So sorry, this conflicts with something else I am doing. Darn. Next time!

    June 14, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Decided to get away! Se you another time.

    June 12, 2013

  • A former member

    A former member changed the location for this Meetup

    June 12, 2013

  • victor

    This is cool!!!

    May 26, 2013

  • Johnnie V.

    I seen it done on tv show the "Colony" and i want to see it done in real life. I also wanting to meet other prepers with same interest.

    May 22, 2013

  • Gary

    I'll be out of town.

    May 18, 2013

  • A former member

    A former member changed the time from 10:00 AM to 1:00 PM

    May 17, 2013

  • A former member

    A former member changed the date and time to Saturday, June 15, 2013 at 10:00 AM

    May 17, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    I'd be interested to power tools and generator

    April 28, 2013

  • Lela L.

    Very interesting group. I've always wanted to see how difficult it is to turn auto engine into bio-diesel able...anybody working on that? Would luv to attend ANZA gasification demo -Can I carpool with anyone? Live in Fallbrook

    April 11, 2013

  • LemonDrop

    I have a 1968 Dodge A108 van that I am restoring. it might be fun to see what it could do with a gasifire

    March 31, 2013

  • LemonDrop

    I finally found a link, it is 9HP. Depending on the cost I am still interested in Anastasia with a much smaller unit. I have a thought of running a small 4cy engine in an enclosed trailer with multiple 12volt auto generators and batteries. This could produce a very powerful 12 volt system which could be expanded simply by adding more generators/batteries. it would have the advantage of not having to run nonstop as it sole purpose would be to charge the batteries.

    March 30, 2013

    • LemonDrop

      That's a wild looking thing. Any idea what wind speed it will need? Have you seen the you tube videos were they make a water gen out of a washing machine?

      March 31, 2013

    • LemonDrop

      I have a creek and a pond at my Texas property and was wondering about setting up a hydraulic generator.

      March 31, 2013

  • LemonDrop

    How many horsepower is an Onan 4KW

    March 29, 2013

  • Mark G.

    I'm very interested in Anastasia. The smaller the wood gasifier, the more difficult it becomes to make a clean gas. If the unit can power a very small engine efficiently at 2 hp, and do so unattended for several hours, then that would be ideal. I hope I can attend. If not, then make sure to post a link to any web sites where the unit is described. In particular, I'm interested to see how it performs with small wood chips.

    March 29, 2013

  • LemonDrop

    I have a very small 2KW Honda gen that I use as my bug out gen. I also have a 4KW Onan in a small enclosed trailer like the ones used at construction sites to house air compressors, gens, etc. I would like a small portable one for the Honda but i would also like to build a Gasifier into the Onan trailer. I think that it would be very neat. The big question is what you are going to charge for them. I am going to work on my retreat in Texas in June. I am not sure if you would have one ready that I could use there but it would be an exhalent test for it.

    March 24, 2013

  • LemonDrop

    We are extremely interested in Gasification. We would like to go to a class and if you are going to produce gasifers for sale we would be buyers.

    March 22, 2013

  • Candace

    Hi All! I am a new member, taking a month's break from my survival farm, to get re-energized here in Murrieta, Calif. Would like to attend meetups with you all while here. Can sometimes borrow a car or if someone wants to pick me up, that's good too. I am a vegetarian, but know that when the time comes - I will probably have to eat fish again. Hey 14 Earthquakes on Calif border this morning! Write me privately if you might be a candidate for my survival retreat in the Midwest!.....I am carrying on, despite the sudden death of my prepper hubby 3 yrs ago.

    1 · February 13, 2013

    • Susan M.

      Hi Candice, welcome. Earthquakes are not a big deal, just roll with them. Speaking of fish, I will be scheduling a meet-up to share aquaponics in the near future. Hope you can make it.

      1 · February 13, 2013

  • Candace

    My dates in Feb are rather open.

    February 13, 2013

  • Margie K.

    Definitely keep me posted as to when!

    December 7, 2012

  • Roger B.

    Roger, Myself and my son will hopefully be attening with two guess providing the upcoming date work out. This is high on our priority list.

    November 18, 2012

  • Deb K.

    Hopefully will be on weekend or late evenings. My husband drives to fort Irwin and back daily :/ thanks!

    November 13, 2012

  • A former member

    A former member changed the location for this Meetup

    August 30, 2012

  • LemonDrop

    If you need a location we have a 3 acre commercial property in Montclair that you can use for a demonstration. We are very interested in building a gasifier and we have a 4kw Onan generator that we are building into a trailer. Please let us know.

    August 24, 2012

    • LemonDrop

      When is the next schedule workshop?
      Did you get your gasifier running?

      August 24, 2012

    • Peggy W.

      We have 22 acres you can use

      August 25, 2012

  • Peggy W.

    Maybe depends on date

    August 20, 2012

  • Peggy W.

    Keep us posted

    August 20, 2012

  • Kip W.

    Whenyou get a date I'll be there.

    August 11, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Thank you very much Selph! Appreciate you letting us look at your project! I look forward to it!

    July 8, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Jeff Penn, the director, wants to talk to you first. He is looking forward to seeing your project and is pretty sure there is no problem hosting.

    July 8, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    @ Selph - It's great that you are offering this. Doing something new sometimes causes unforeseen issues. Thanks for even bothering to offer us a glimpse of your project. You owe no one an apology, IMO. I have a possible meet up location for you. Cops 4 Kids in Hemet thinks it will be fine for you to demonstrate there, but wants to Jeff Penn, the Dir., wants to talk to you first.

    July 8, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Hello! Any updates available? Thanks!

    July 8, 2012

  • LemonDrop

    I am going to Texas for the summer June10, but I really want to see this. When is the date?

    May 10, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Oops, I meant to say"their booth"

    May 9, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Also wondering if you would like to attend an Earth Day festival in Anza this Saturday? I am member of this fun and friendly group of mountain people who will have a booth there. I am bringing my rocket stove since they asked for us to bring interesting stuff for there booth. Here is the link about this event: http://www.meetup.com/Mountain-Communities-Group/events/63574502/. If this isn't viewable, then you will need to join the group to access. Its free.

    May 9, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    I demonstrated how to build a solar cooker there and had a turn out of about 15 people. I will be demonstrating the rocket stove after schools out.

    May 9, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    @Selph - Yesterday I spoke with Jeff Penn, director of Cops 4 Kids Hemet. He is interested in having you demonstrate at Cops for Kids. It is near the corner of State Street and Devonshire. It is a big warehouse behind an ambulance service. Jeff would like to talk to about the demonstration to make sure he can approve it. Here is contact info. ([masked]). Jeff is very, very, very nice and open to stuff. He is grateful when anyone offers to demonstrate useful stuff.

    May 9, 2012

  • Jerod

    Would we be able to demonstrate this in a decent sized backyard?

    May 9, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Sign me up

    April 27, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Chris, Here is the response I got from the City of Murietta: http://www.meetup.com/MurrietaPreppers/messages/boards/view/addpostprocess

    April 23, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    I just emailed the City of Murietta office to ask what rules we need to know to stay in compliance. I also asked if the Fire Dept would interested in having the demo on their property since emergency prep is vital to the community. I will send you an email when I receive a response.

    April 23, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    What are your needs for a location? Would a park work for you? Or does it need to be at a private residence?

    April 23, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    My neighbors have been trying to give me their old truck. It's an F250 late 70's (or early 80's?) if I recall correctly, I think it's 4WD. I'll check and get back to you. It's still sitting in their yard so I'm pretty sure it hasn't found a new home yet.

    April 18, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Do you need a vehicle as a guniea pig? I can donate a truck for the project.

    April 18, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    This is a great topic! Once you have decided on a date, would it be okay for me to cross post this to my Disaster Preparedness group? http://www.meetup.com/DisasterSurvival/
    Or better yet, would you like to join my group and be in charge of off-grid education? I need more team leaders in several areas.

    April 18, 2012

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