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Blind comparison between Shiraz of Australia and Syrah from the Rhone Valley

  • Nov 8, 2013 · 8:30 PM

What is the difference between Syrah and Shiraz?' Answer - Nothing!  In the true spirit of Australian individualism, the Aussies planted Syrah and called it Shiraz. The two grapes are genetically identical, though when tasted, there are some differences.

Since Roman times Syrah has been grown in the a Rhône region of France which it originates from. Australian wines are booming and winemakers have made huge strides understanding which varietals grow best in each region. They have found that in particular areas like Barossa, McLaren Vale and Coonwarra, the shiraz grape turned out to be a very ripe fruit with lower acidity producing luscious, silky, mouth-filling wines.

The purest French Syrah with (allmost 100% pure Syrah grape in a region where blending is the law) come from the Northen part of the region where are produced some of the most sought after and long-lived Rhône : Côte Rotie, Saint-Joseph, Crozes-Hermitage, Hermitage and Cornas.

The session will consist of blind tasting 8 to 10 bottles of pure Syrah and find out in which of those two regions we can find the most outstanding wine makers.

Hope to see you all.

 

 

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  • A former member
    A former member

    Thanks for a fantastic evening. Really good to meet up again. Cant wait for the fizz!

    November 10, 2013

  • Jane

    PS Did anyone find a pair of sheepskin gloves? I am always losing gloves, but these are really cozy.

    November 10, 2013

  • Jane

    Great choice of wines once again. The evening was both fun and informative. Unfortunately, I am developing a more discerning habit, which may prove expensive. Look forward to the fizz at Emma's.

    November 10, 2013

  • Emma T

    great do, really enjoyed it. A good comparisons of wines & some fun conversations!

    November 9, 2013

  • Rob S.

    Top night. Brilliant. Many thanks to Emmanuel for organising this and supplying some great wines

    November 8, 2013

  • Emmanuel

    Hi all, we are not so many tonight but we'll have fun anyway. For those who don't have it. I remind Rob's address for tonight. 25 Douglas Avenue
    Carlton
    Nottingham
    NG4 1AL

    See you at 8h30

    November 8, 2013

  • Rob S.

    Hi All, I think we probably have enough people now to make this viable. With Karen's +2 that makes 8 people from this site plus 2 new people from Nottingham Sociables to take it to 10. See you all on Friday!

    Cheers

    Rob

    November 6, 2013

    • A former member
      A former member

      Do we have an address please??

      November 8, 2013

    • Rob S.

      25 douglas avenue carlton ng4 1al

      November 8, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Désolé de manquer cette session ms avons déjà quelque chose de prévu - Bonne soirée et a la prochaine en Décembre.

    November 8, 2013

  • Emmanuel

    Emma, Rob, yes please go ahead. We are down to 7 participants for this friday session, so we may need a bit of publicity. Anyway, no matter what, we will not cancel or postpone this coming session on Shiraz vs Syrah on Friday

    November 4, 2013

    • Emma T

      I put it on sociables last night, we've already got one other person signed up & a couple of others were asking where it was, so may be interested. So hopefully a few more :-)

      November 4, 2013

  • Emma T

    Emmanuel, do you want me to post this wine do up on the nottingham socialbles website? I'm an organiser on there so I can do? People do sometimes cross post events on different sites to get more attendees. It's possible to restrict to a certain number so I could put it up and restrict it to 5 if you wanted? I imagine we'd get a few more.

    November 3, 2013

    • Rob S.

      Im also an organiser for nottingham sociables so id be happy to co-host it on there with you. We seem to down to 8 now with karens +2 so id suggest putting it in with a limit of 10. I bet if the 10 some wouldnt turn up anyway. Cheers rob

      November 3, 2013

    • Emmanuel

      Sure Emma, go ahead.Our club needs to grow outside our local wine lover community. You can mention that the total number of participants will be limited to 15.

      November 3, 2013

  • Maria P.

    I was also confused and believed the 8th had also been cancelled. So now unable to attend . Looking forward to next meeting
    Happy tasting!

    November 3, 2013

  • Rob S.

    Hi All, Sorry is anyone is confused. The tasting will be going ahead on Friday 8th November. It will be held at my house on Douglas Avenue Carlton. We will email the full address to all the attendees. You can get the No 43 NCT bus from Queen Street that stops at the top and bottom of the road. I live about halfway along the road.

    The only point of contention is the cost. Emmanuel has paid over £200 for the wines so to recoup his costs he will need to charge £20 per head assuming we have 10 people. We could reduce costs to £15 per head if we can get 15 people, so if anyone knows other people who may be interested then please let us know. Unfortunately none of my friends are that interested in wine. I can host up to about 20 people if I use all my garden chairs.

    So what I would suggest is that everyone please confirm that they can attend and that they don't mind paying £20 each to cover costs.

    I'm really looking forward to this so Im hoping Ill see you all next Friday.

    Cheers

    Rob

    November 3, 2013

    • A former member
      A former member

      Hi Rob -I am bringing two people Ann and Rob - I think Ann has tried to register so not sure if she is on your list - don't want you to double count!!

      November 3, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    I'm really interested in attending, but there seems to be a lot of confusion about dates and location. Can someone please confirm??

    Thanks

    November 3, 2013

  • Clive

    Yikes, the date's changed again !

    November 1, 2013

  • Simon J.

    Can't make the 8th, on the South coast sampling Eau de Chanel. Look forward to the next meet!

    October 30, 2013

  • Rob S.

    Sorry, we had to change the date because both myself and Emmanuel had other commitments on 1st November. This event will be hosted at my house in Carlton, the address will be emailed to participants. My road is on an NCT bus route if anyone needs to use public transport.

    October 22, 2013

    • A former member
      A former member

      Hi Rob, thanks for the reply. Hope to attend next time. Have a nice evening anyway.

      October 22, 2013

  • marta d.

    I also can't come that day I have different plans I was look ford that

    This event maybe next time x :-)

    October 22, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Not sure why the date has been changed again but i cannot attend the new one

    October 22, 2013

  • Simon J.

    Please advise on location, look forward to meeting you all, Simon

    October 21, 2013

  • Helen T.

    Sorry Emmanuel,

    Can't make the 1st November as have another commitment already for that date. Look forward to joining you another time. Helen

    October 21, 2013

  • Rob S.

    Cant make 1st November now, gutted!

    October 17, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Quelle domage - I cannot make it as in Devon that weekend. a flexible cost would be ok for me - I so enjoyed the evening and would love it to be a definite diary date

    October 12, 2013

  • Clive

    Formidable ! We can make it now ...

    October 11, 2013

  • Guillaume

    Sorry Emmanuel, I won't be able to make it next time ! Too bad ! We'll have to plan something else like having a drink/food another day to catch up ! See you soon !

    October 11, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Sorry to cancel this but the new location Carlton does not work for me as I need to return by public transport to Loughborough on Friday and the 20.30 start and location make it impossible. Enjoy the wines.

    October 9, 2013

    • Rob S.

      Sorry that's 25 mins past, not 35. Not sure if this info might help other people as well?

      October 10, 2013

    • A former member
      A former member

      Thanks for the info Rob but the issue is the late start. The last bus is 23.20 from Broadmarsh and that means leaving on the 22.45 from near you. My experience of the group is that at 23.00 you are nowhere near the last wines, so twice I have come and left well before the end. From Carlton I would have to leave even earlier.

      October 11, 2013

  • Emmanuel

    Hello all, I am sorry but I will have to post-pone again as we are only 7 participants and the wine bottles for this session are pricy (around 200£ for the evening). I reckon we need to be at least at least 15 to share the cost between us, otherwise I loose out too much. I will probably announce the overall cost in the future and set a fixed number of participants.
    Anyway, sorry if you had booked the night for tomorrow and hope you can make it on the 1st of November

    October 11, 2013

    • A former member
      A former member

      Hi Emmanuel, just a suggestion, do you think it would also be a good idea to tell people how much the cost will be per person?

      October 11, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    I'm going to have to cancel this one, i've been unwell with this sickness bug so ithink its unwise to be sampling wine. Hope to see you all at the next one

    October 9, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    I'm a maybe

    October 2, 2013

  • Clive

    Merde. Can't make this one as Adela and I will be away. Hope we can do a repeat session in the future.

    September 27, 2013

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