What we're about

Hi.

Do you love being outside in nature, going on adventures, discovering new places, making new friends, and creating new memories?

Do your friends prefer staying indoors with the virtual world (tv, movies, video games, internet, etc.) ?

Or are your outdoorsy friends always busy?

Is there a fun destination you want to go to, but haven't yet because nobody was available to join you?

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Well then, good news. This group is different. If anyone joins, it's your group.

I plan a few events/trips, but everyone is encouraged to host their own event.

If there is a hike you want to do, a place you want to visit, or a trip you want to go on...then share your idea so others can join you.

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More info - https://www.meetup.com/OC_Camping/events/239368574

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Upcoming trips in 2019

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July (after Independence Day) @ Big Pine Lakes - https://www.meetup.com/OC_Camping/events/254134299

July @ Eastern Sierra - https://www.meetup.com/OC_Camping/events/262381102

August @ Mammoth - https://www.meetup.com/OC_Camping/events/262382586

September (Labor Day wknd) @ Sedona, Arizona - https://www.meetup.com/OC_Camping/events/254136870

September @ Banff & Jasper NP - https://www.meetup.com/OC_Camping/events/262009852

October @ Eastern Sierra - https://www.meetup.com/OC_Camping/events/255457160

October @ Zion - https://www.meetup.com/OC_Camping/events/262385832

November @ Vegas - https://www.meetup.com/OC_Camping/events/262387585

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Possible trips in 2020

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February @ Bryce Canyon -

February or March @ Death Valley -

March or April @ Joshua Tree -

May or June @ Yosemite -

June or July @ Sequoia -

Upcoming events (5+)

Camping, Hiking, Swimming, & Hot Springs @ Little Lakes Valley / Eastern Sierra

Little Lakes Valley Trailhead (Gem Lakes)

Hi, Everybody is busy and your time is limited. My intention isn’t to waste anyone’s time. If interested in this trip, reading this description is recommended. For app users reading this on your phone - it's easier to view this on a larger screen and web browser via a computer/laptop/tablet - https://www.meetup.com/OC_Camping/events/262381102 ____________________ One popular and beautiful area of Eastern Sierra is Little Lakes Valley in Rock Creek Canyon. Some trails are easy and moderate level. Little Lakes Valley trail is fairly easy imo (relatively little elevation gain), so nearly everyone can enjoy this mostly flat trail. Dogs and kids should be able to handle this hike imo. If anyone prefers some elevation, you can keep going to Morgan Pass/Morgan Lakes....or go on another trail to Mono Pass. - Earlier this month, we had a large group (~ 46 people), which was fun, but stressful; so this time, this will be a smaller group trip, maybe around 6 - 10 people. - If anyone is new to camping, new to Eastern Sierra, and/or a casual hiker---then this would be a good event to consider...especially since Little Lakes trail is fairly easy, yet very scenic imo. - The start time posted is 5:00 pm, but this event is flexible. If anyone wants to drive up Friday morning to have more time for exploring the area (or hiking), that's fine. Or if anyone wants to start earlier and go up Thursday afternoon/evening, lmk and we can talk about it. ____________________ Drive time is about: 5 - 5.5 hours from LA - https://goo.gl/maps/VAdShnEVbJCJgS8MA 5.5 - 6 hours from OC - https://goo.gl/maps/NCFAu6Ewi4NanWFK8 - If anyone arrives late on Friday night (e.g. 11pm or later), and wants help setting up their tent in the dark, I'll bring extra lights, and lend a hand and foot. ____________________ It helps if people contact me directly (via Meetup) with answers to some questions. If there’s room and I feel okay about someone attending, then I’ll reply and include my Paypal and Venmo. $30 per person/adult. Kids are usually free*. Those who contact me, confirm, and pay will be saved a spot at our campsite. We’re sorry if room isn’t available for everyone, and some people can’t go. If any guy (who has never met me) wants to attend, near the bottom is an additional request that involves sending me a photo/selfie of yourself. I’ll elaborate/clarify later. Sometimes people try to communicate with me in the comments section, and imo, it’s inconvenient. Plus, Meetup sometimes doesn’t notify me of comments, so I might not see questions/comments immediately, so messaging me directly is preferred. ____________________ The plan is to sleep / camp in Rock Creek Canyon. If Little Lakes Valley trail sounds too easy, and anyone wants to do a moderate hike, two other trails start near Rock Creek Lake - Hilton Creek Lakes and Tamarack Lakes (green and purple in the following map) - https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5337631.pdf Everyone is welcome to choose which hike/activity they want to do. The easier, Little Lakes Valley trail (to Morgan Pass) is orange in the following map. https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5337631.pdf If anyone wants to hike to Mono Pass (Ruby Lake), it's red in the aforementioned map. Or feel free to pick another hike. On Saturday afternoon, after hiking, maybe we can swim at Rock Creek Lake or relax at a nearby hot spring in Mammoth. On Sunday, we can discuss if anyone wants to hike together somewhere else. ____________________ The Morgan Pass trail is flexible...so you can stop wherever you want...at Long Lake, Chickenfoot Lake, Gem Lake, Treasure Lakes, Morgan Lakes, etc. It's your choice. https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/little-lakes-valley-to-gem-lakes https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/rock-creek-to-long-lake-trail https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/mosquito-flat-to-morgan-lakes - If anyone prefers more elevation, consider the Mono Pass trail - https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/ruby-lake https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/mono-pass-from-mosquito-flat-trailhead or Hilton Lakes trail https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/hilton-lakes-trail or Tamarick Lakes trail https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/tamarack-lakes-trail ____________________ More info/details about Little Lakes Valley - https://modernhiker.com/hiking-little-lakes-valley http://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/little-lakes-valley http://www.hikingwalking.com/destinations/ca/ca_ses/mammoth_lakes/little_lakes/little_lakes_detail https://www.yelp.com/biz/mosquito-flat-trailhead-mammoth-lakes http://www.rockcreeklake.com/virtual/llvalley/1.htm https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g32083-d3491124-Reviews-Little_Lakes_Valley_Trail-Bishop_California.html https://www.summitpost.org/little-lakes-valley/715698 ____________________ If anyone is new and unfamiliar with Eastern Sierra, Rock Creek Canyon is # 7 on the following map (2nd page) https://www.californiafallcolor.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/FallColorMap2017.pdf - Little Lakes Valley is southwest of Rock Creek Lake. ____________________ Update: Earlier this month during our trip to Big Pine Lakes, a few other group members went on the Little Lakes Valley hike, and they said they were able to hike (and cross the creek/stream)...and snow wasn't a problem. Based on recent photos & reports, it seems the beginning of the trail is snow-free. https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/little-lakes-valley-to-gem-lakes Others have reported snow at higher elevation...such as on the Mono Pass trail to Ruby Lake (partially frozen). https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/mono-pass-from-mosquito-flat-trailhead/photos https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/ruby-lake/photos https://www.facebook.com/groups/rockcreek/permalink/2224236067625078 - My guess is we can get to at least Long Lake and Chickenfoot Lake...but Gem Lakes and Morgan Lake are maybe. If anyone wants a visual...here's a map - www.flyfishingthesierra.com/images/rcreekbc1.gif The trailhead starts at the top center (Mosquito Flat TH)...and the Morgan Pass/Morgan Lakes trail goes south, passing Mack Lake, Marsh Lake, Heart Lake, Box Lake, Long Lake, etc... ...and the Mono Pass Lake also starts at Mosquito Flat TH, and starts heading south, but then turns west to Ruby Lake. - I personally will probably take it easy, relax at one of the lakes, eat lunch, and possibly bring a pool float to chill at one of the lakes, but... If anyone else wants to go farther/higher to higher elevation, feel free to bring microspikes, crampons, gaiters, snowshoes, ice axe, etc. - In addition to hiking, swimming at a lake is another idea. Or going to a nearby hot spring to relax is also possible. One is called something like Willy Wonka or Wet Willy. https://www.yelp.com/biz/wild-willys-hot-spring-mammoth-lakes - Other Hot Springs: https://whenyouwander.com/5-best-free-hot-springs-in-mammoth-lakes-california https://nobackhome.com/hot-springs-near-mammoth https://fittowander.com/2015/05/03/hot-springs-mammoth-california ____________________ Photos: https://www.meetup.com/OC_Camping/photos/28229093/465400908 https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/rock-creek-to-long-lake-trail/photos https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/little-lakes-valley-to-gem-lakes/photos https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/mosquito-flat-to-morgan-lakes/photos https://www.instagram.com/explore/locations/1432634043468101/little-lakes-valley https://www.instagram.com/explore/locations/543371957/little-lakes-valley-trail-head-eastern-sierras https://www.instagram.com/explore/locations/322903871/little-lakes-valley-trail https://www.google.com/search?&hl=en&tbm=isch&q=Little+Lakes+Valley - Videos: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=little+lakes+valley ____________________ Dog & Kid Friendly: - https://calitrails.com/2014/06/03/day-hiking-little-lakes-valley https://trailtopeak.com/2018/11/13/hiking-little-lakes-valley-trail-gem-lakes-via-mosquito-flat-bishop-ca https://www.femalehiker.com/hikes/little-lakes-valley https://hikinggirlwithdog.com/category/location/eastern-sierra https://rockchucksummit.com/easy-hikes-mammoth-lakes ____________________ Our camping trips are intended as fun and friendly get-togethers to enjoy nature and the great outdoors. Everyone has many options of things to do on the weekends. You all could be doing several other things/activities. Our trips are an opportunity to get away for the weekend, meet some new people, and have some fun exploring our beautiful planet with others who appreciate life. Maybe you’ll have an awful, awesome, or awe-none time. I don’t promise or guarantee anything. Ultimately, it’s up to each person to decide if they want to go or not. Clearly I’m a bad salesman. ;) I never try to convince/persuade anyone from joining. ____________________ My suggestion is to bring some form of bug repellent. Either a spray, lotion, mosquito bracelet, etc. It's up to you if you want to wear shorts and a short-sleeve t-shirt, but I personally recommend wearing comfortable pants and a long sleeve t-shirt. People have different opinions about DEET. If you don't want to spray DEET or any other chemical on your skin or on your face, another option is to get a mosquito net that goes over your face/head. They can be found at local stores like Walmart, Target, Big 5, Sport Chalet, maybe REI, etc. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Coleman-Mosquito-Head-Net/13848609 http://big5sportinggoods.com/store/details/coghlans-mosquito-head-net/0750101738941/_/A-1898543 https://www.walmart.com/ip/Coghlan-s-Mosquito-Head-Net/26958651 - There also are DEET-free alternatives, such as essential oils or herbal & flower-based repellents. - This shouldn't scare or deter anyone from going. Believe me or not....Little Lakes Valley trail is a beautiful hike...and it's a very popular trail, despite the mosquitoes. The mosquitoes can be aggressive and annoying in some areas along the trail, so bringing something is highly recommended. ____________________ The campground should allow dogs. The campground should have potable water, fire ring, food/bear locker, and restroom with toilets that flush. The campground does not have electricity or showers, but a nearby lodge/resort might have showers available for public use. I'll try to remember to check with Rock Creek Lodge -[masked] Rock Creek Lakes Resort -[masked] http://climber.org/data/showers.html - I usually bring foil and get wood if anyone wants to cook over a fire. Parking at the campground is limited...so carpooling will help. A few of us might need to park elsewhere, such as an overflow parking lot. ____________________ If anyone is new to Meetup, please disregard / ignore the RSVP list. The majority of people who signed up will not go. I’ve planned several camping trips, and for some unknown reason, usually what happens is many people sign up, but a fraction are serious about going, so the RSVP list means nothing. People can easily change their mind, get busy, not want to drive, not be able to get a ride, make other plans, etc...so the number of people who signed up does not accurately reflect the number who will actually go. My guess is 4 - 10 people might go. If anyone is new to Meetup or afraid/scared of camping with strangers---that’s totally normal and human. My suggestion is to not go. We don’t want to worry about you and we rather make room for others who want to go. So if anyone is nervous, hesitant, or maybe about going, it’s totally fine if you don’t go. ____________________ I'm not a mind-reader, so if anyone is interested in attending, please contact me directly (message me on Meetup) with answers to the following questions: (1) Do you want to drive or ride with someone else? If you can drive others, how many passengers can you accommodate? What time do you want to leave SoCal? What city/area are you leaving from? (This helps with finding you a carpool buddy). (2) Do you have your own camping gear (e.g. tent, sleeping bag, mat/pad/cot, etc.) ? (3) Do you understand you are responsible for bringing / buying your own food? (4) Do you understand it's possible some trails at higher elevations might still have snow? I think some snow should melt by late July, but some parts of trails might have snow. (5) Do you understand some trails in this area start at a high elevation, and therefore anyone who is susceptible to altitude sickness should be aware, careful, and prepared? (6) Question for drivers --- The campground has limited parking space. We'll try to squeeze 2 - 3 vehicles per site. If we exceed our allocated parking spots, are you willing to park nearby (such as an overflow area) ? You can still drive your vehicle to drop off your stuff at the campsite, but are you will willing to park elsewhere if needed? - If using Meetup via the phone app or a computer (e.g. web browser), look for my name/profile (wise|man) under Attendees, and then click a shortcut for messaging me (e.g. an envelope icon shortcut or "message"). Please message “wise|man” instead of using the comments section. Thank you. - If anybody is new to camping and doesn’t have some camping gear/equipment, or wants help coordinating carpooling or tent sharing, just lmk. After messaging me your answers, a $30 contribution will be collected via Paypal or Venmo. Leftover money will be used to buy some items to help a few homeless individuals. More info on the campsite & final details will be sent to those who confirmed & paid. ____________________ Something new for 2019: If any guy has never met me before, in addition to the aforementioned questions, I will also ask each guy to send me a photo of yourself. If possible, hold up a piece of paper with 3 things: my name, your name, and the date. Email it to [masked] or text it to[masked] Totally understandable some guys might not want to do this (inconvenient, a pain/hassle, etc.). If anyone doesn’t want to do this, that’s your prerogative. - FAQ Q: Why don’t you ask women to send a photo? A: Because I’m sexist. After 20+ camping trips of encountering 400 to 500+ people who attended one of my camping trips, I don’t remember any woman harassing a man, but a few guys have bothered women, so now I’m taking extra precaution with just guys. ____________________ Dear ladies, If anyone is thinking about going, please look at the RSVP list. If any guy seems weird or creepy, or messaged you out of nowhere, or makes you feel uncomfortable, just lmk. I trust women's intuition, so if you don't want someone to attend, just lmk. ____________________ Dear gentlemen, After the news in 2017 with sexual abuse, harassment, inappropriate behavior, #MeToo movement, etc., I want to be more vigilant and careful with who joins. I've planned numerous camping trips, and surprisingly, many women have attended. By default, I take on an over-protective brother/father role and need to look out for everyone. We've been lucky in having some good guys attend, but a few have been questionable, and therefore, that’s why we now have to be more judicious and cautious. Believe it or not, I’m a Jane Austen-liking, hopeful romantic. At least 6 group members have met through my meetup events and started dating. I’m happy whenever two people can connect (as long as there’s mutual interest/attraction). However, I also need to be vigilant and diligent. It probably is not easy for some women to go camping with strangers, and whenever other women put trust in me and are willing to attend, I need to look out for their safety and well-being. I have enough to stress about: ...will people arrive safely (no accidents, flat tires, speeding tickets), have food, water, and all the camping gear they need, sleep okay, stay warm, not get lost / injured, etc… So if you’re a guy who is interested in attending, please “be cool.” If you can help me have one less thing to worry about, it preserves my sanity. So if any women attend, thank you for being respectful toward them. ____________________ If anyone can drive and is open to carpooling...or if anyone wants to go, but is looking for a ride: - Post a comment and maybe others will respond - Check the comments section if maybe someone else is offering a ride or needs a ride - Let me (Wiseman) know because sometimes people message me (and they might not post a comment), so I can also try to connect people for carpooling. Note: If you successfully connect with another person for carpooling, please let me know b/c it helps me coordinate the campsite assignments for # of people and vehicles per campsite. In past camping trips, some people became friends through carpooling. Yes, riding with a new person might seem awkward, so feel free to exchange social media, or talk over the phone, or meet for coffee or a hike beforehand to break the ice and become more comfortable with one another. ____________________ Examples of recommended items to bring: - Bug spray / Insect repellent / Mask nets Sleeping bag + pillow Sleeping pad / mat or air mattress Tent (or share with someone who has one) Appropriate clothes, socks, & shoes Toothbrush, toothpaste, & other hygiene items / toiletries Lip balm / chapstick Hand sanitizer or baby wipes / wet naps Sunglasses, sunscreen, and a hat or a bandana Earplugs Flashlight / Headlamp Portable chair Cell phone charger cable (car adapter) or portable charger Water or water filter Water bottles or hydration pack Food (and cookware) Towel, soap, shampoo, & flip-flops / water sandals (if showering) Swimwear (if swimming in lake or going to a hot spring) Music or games https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/family-camping-checklist.html ____________________ * Some other camping events on Meetup might prohibit kids. I admire parents who introduce their child(ren) to the outdoors and respect parents who encourage kids to take a break from tv, video games, phones, computers, etc.. So parents and kids are welcome to join. I usually ask for a payment per person (adult), so kids who attend are free. As long as there’s space/room at the campsite, and the child genuinely wants to attend, and it’s not a large # of kids (boys/girls scouts, youth group, etc.). Some people on Meetup don’t want kids to attend, but I try to be cool, understanding, and supportive of parents. However, we want to avoid a situation where a kid is dragged to camping trip and doesn’t want to be there (foul/negative mood, tantrum, drama, etc.)....so thank you for your cooperation. ____________________ One group member contacted me about fishing. I personally don't know much, so you'll have to research on your own...but I remember seeing others fishing in this area before. - https://www.monocounty.org/things-to-do/fishing https://rockcreeklodge.com/fishing-rock-creek-canyon http://www.rockcreeklakesresort.com/fishing-information https://www.facebook.com/groups/easternsierrafishing https://www.facebook.com/EasternSierraFishReports https://www.facebook.com/groups/1988144838072674 https://www.facebook.com/groups/rockcreek ____________________ ____________________ The following is just filler that I need to add b/c Meetup has some weird character limit, and I might need to add to this description later...so the following is just a short story that you can ignore...it's seriously just filler. - Genesis and Catastrophe Roald Dahl “Everything is normal,” the doctor was saying. “Just lie back and relax.” His voice was miles away in the distance and he seemed to be shouting at her. “You have a son.” “What?” “You have a fine son. You understand that, don’t you? A fine son. Did you hear him crying?” “Is he all right, Doctor?” “Of course he is all right,” “Please let me see him.” “You’ll see him in a moment.” “You are certain he is all right?” “I am quite certain.” “Is he still crying?” “Try to rest. There is nothing to worry about.” “Why has he stopped crying, Doctor? What happened?” “Don’t excite yourself, please. Everything is normal.” “I want to see him. Please let me see him.” “Dear lady,” the doctor said, patting her hand. “You have a fine strong healthy child. Don’t you believe me when I tell you that?” “What is the woman over there doing to him?” “Your baby is being made to look pretty for you,” the doctor said. “We are giving him a little wash, that is all. You must spare us a moment or two for that.” “You swear he is all right?” “I swear it. Now lie back and relax. Close your eyes. Go on, close your eyes. That’s right. That’s better. Good girl… ” “I have prayed and prayed that he will live, Doctor.” Of course he will live. What are you talking about?” “The others didn’t.” “What?” “None of my other ones lived, Doctor.” The doctor stood beside the bed looking down at the pale exhausted face of the young woman. He had never seen her before today. She and her husband were new people in the town. The innkeeper’s wife, who had come up to assist in the delivery, had told him that the husband worked at the local customs-house on the border and that the two of them had arrived quite suddenly at the inn with one trunk and one suitcase about three months ago. The husband was a drunkard, the innkeeper’s wife had said, an arrogant, overbearing, bullying little drunkard, but the young woman was gentle and religious. And she was very sad. She never smiled. In the few weeks that she had been here, the innkeeper’s wife had never once seen her smile. Also there was a rumor that this was the husband’s third marriage, that one wife had died and that the other had divorced him or unsavory reasons. But that was only a rumor.

Camping & Hiking @ Mammoth

Mammoth Lakes Welcome Center

Hi, Everybody is busy and your time is limited. My intention isn’t to waste anyone’s time. If interested in this trip, reading this description is recommended. For app users reading this on your phone - it's easier to view this on a larger screen and web browser via a computer/laptop/tablet - https://www.meetup.com/OC_Camping/events/262382586 ____________________ Mammoth Lakes is very scenic and gorgeous. If you're an experienced hiker, then several moderate / strenuous hikes are available to choose from. If you're new or nervous about camping, then that's fine too. Plenty of easy hikes to lakes are available, and are accessible by car and a short walk. Anyone & everyone can witness the many pristine lakes (along with mountains, trees, and the majestic outdoors). If you've never camped before, then this would make for a great, first-time camping experience. You don't have to be an intense, hard-core hiker because there are plenty of flat and short-distance trails. If hiking isn't your thing, consider other activities such as fishing, road or mountain biking, kayaking, SUP, swimming, horseback-riding, etc. Mammoth has convenient amenities like grocery stores / markets, Starbucks, restaurants, etc., so you can still have access to civilization while enjoying the beautiful outdoors. Cell phone reception is good in town and okay at the campground. If anyone has never been to Mammoth or Eastern Sierra, then here's your chance to finally go. - This is intended as a small group trip, maybe around 4 - 8 people. - The start time posted is 5:00 pm, but this event is flexible. If anyone wants to drive up Friday morning to have more time for exploring the area (or hiking), that's fine. Or if anyone wants to start earlier and go up Thursday afternoon/evening, lmk and we can talk about it. ____________________ Drive time is around: 5 - 6 hours from LA - https://goo.gl/maps/jsc8KwB9nzk 5.5 - 6 hours from OC - https://goo.gl/maps/m97M5hAL1ct - If anyone arrives late on Friday night (e.g. 11pm or later), and wants help setting up their tent in the dark, I'll bring extra lights, and lend a hand and foot. ____________________ It helps if people contact me directly (via Meetup) with answers to some questions. If there’s room and I feel okay about someone attending, then I’ll reply and include my Paypal and Venmo. $35 per person/adult. Kids are usually free*. Those who contact me, confirm, and pay will be saved a spot at our campsite. We’re sorry if room isn’t available for everyone, and some people can’t go. If any guy (who has never met me) wants to attend, near the bottom is an additional request that involves sending me a photo/selfie of yourself. I’ll elaborate/clarify later. Sometimes people try to communicate with me in the comments section, and imo, it’s inconvenient. Plus, Meetup sometimes doesn’t notify me of comments, so I might not see questions/comments immediately, so messaging me directly is preferred. ____________________ Bringing dogs or kids is fine. Some hiking trails in/near Mammoth allow dogs. https://www.visitmammoth.com/blogs/adventures-your-best-friend-hiking-dogs-mammoth-lakes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDcP6BRLreA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FXDL0nzQMY Some other camping events on Meetup might prohibit kids. I admire parents who introduce their child(ren) to the outdoors and respect parents who encourage kids to take a break from tv, video games, phones, computers, etc. So parents and kids are welcome to join. https://travelbabbo.com/mammoth-lakes-kids ____________________ https://www.visitmammoth.com/summer-activities https://www.visitmammoth.com/hiking-backpacking https://www.visitmammoth.com/boating-kayaking-paddle-boarding https://www.visitmammoth.com/blogs/bucket-list-guide-hiking-eastern-sierra https://www.visitmammoth.com/blogs/3-perfect-days-hiking-mammoth-lakes https://www.mammothmountain.com/summer/things-to-do/summer-activities - https://www.facebook.com/visitmammoth https://www.facebook.com/VisitEasternSierra https://www.facebook.com/groups/ilovethesierra ____________________ Our camping trips are intended as fun and friendly get-togethers to enjoy nature and the great outdoors. Everyone has many options of things to do on the weekends. You all could be doing several other things/activities. Our trips are an opportunity to get away for the weekend, meet some new people, and have some fun exploring our beautiful planet with others who appreciate life. Maybe you’ll have an awful, awesome, or awe-none time. I don’t promise or guarantee anything. Ultimately, it’s up to each person to decide if they want to go or not. Clearly I’m a bad salesman. ;) I never try to convince/persuade anyone from joining. ____________________ The campground allows dogs. The campground has potable water, fire ring, food/bear locker, restrooms with sinks (running water), and toilets that flush. The campground does not have electricity or showers, but a nearby RV park and another campground should have showers available for $5 - 10. https://www.visitmammoth.com/public-showers-campers http://climber.org/data/showers.html - Everyone should bring/buy their own food, but if anyone doesn’t have a cooler, Mammoth has some markets/grocery stores and restaurants. I usually bring foil and get wood if anyone wants to cook over a fire. Parking at the campground is limited...so carpooling will help. Some of us might need to park in another area. ____________________ If anyone is new to Meetup, please disregard / ignore the RSVP list. The majority of people who signed up will not go. I’ve planned several camping trips, and for some unknown reason, usually what happens is many people sign up, but a fraction are serious about going, so the RSVP list means nothing. People can easily change their mind, get busy, not want to drive, not be able to get a ride, make other plans, etc...so the number of people who signed up does not accurately reflect the number who will actually go. My guess is 4 - 8 people might go. If anyone is new to Meetup or afraid/scared of camping with strangers---that’s totally normal and human. My suggestion is to not go. We don’t want to worry about you and we rather make room for others who want to go. So if anyone is nervous, hesitant, or maybe about going, it’s totally fine if you don’t go. ____________________ I'm not a mind-reader, so if anyone is interested in attending, please contact me directly (message me on Meetup) with answers to the following questions: (1) Do you want to drive or ride with someone else? If you can drive others, how many passengers can you accommodate? What day & time do you want to leave SoCal? What city/area are you leaving from? (This helps with finding you a carpool buddy). (2) Do you have your own camping gear (e.g. tent, sleeping bag, mat/pad/cot, etc.) ? (3) Do you understand you are responsible for bringing / buying your own food? (4) Question for drivers --- The campground has limited parking space and charges extra for each additional vehicle. If we exceed our allocated parking spots, are you willing to park nearby (such as an overflow area) ? You can still drive your vehicle to drop off your stuff at the campsite, but are you will willing to park elsewhere if needed? - If using Meetup via the phone app or a computer (e.g. web browser), look for my name/profile (wise|man) under Attendees, and then click a shortcut for messaging me (e.g. an envelope icon shortcut or "message"). Please message “wise|man” instead of using the comments section. Thank you. - If anybody is new to camping and doesn’t have some camping gear/equipment, or wants help coordinating carpooling or tent sharing, just lmk. After messaging me your answers, a $35 contribution will be collected via Paypal or Venmo. Leftover money will be used to buy some items to help a few homeless individuals. More info on the campsite & final details will be sent to those who confirmed & paid. ____________________ Something new for 2019: If any guy has never met me before, in addition to the aforementioned questions, I will also ask each guy to send me a photo of yourself. If possible, hold up a piece of paper with 3 things: my name, your name, and the date. Email it to [masked] or text it to[masked] Totally understandable some guys might not want to do this (inconvenient, a pain/hassle, etc.). If anyone doesn’t want to do this, that’s your prerogative. - FAQ Q: Why don’t you ask women to send a photo? A: Because I’m sexist. After 20+ camping trips of encountering 400 to 500+ people who attended one of my camping trips, I don’t remember any woman harassing a man, but a few guys have bothered women, so now I’m taking extra precaution with just guys. ____________________ Dear ladies, If anyone is thinking about going, please look at the RSVP list. If any guy seems weird or creepy, or messaged you out of nowhere, or makes you feel uncomfortable, just lmk. I trust women's intuition, so if you don't want someone to attend, just lmk. ____________________ Dear gentlemen, After the news in 2017 with sexual abuse, harassment, inappropriate behavior, #MeToo movement, etc., I want to be more vigilant and careful with who joins. I've planned numerous camping trips, and surprisingly, many women have attended. By default, I take on an over-protective brother/father role and need to look out for everyone. We've been lucky in having some good guys attend, but a few have been questionable, and therefore, that’s why we now have to be more judicious and cautious. Believe it or not, I’m a Jane Austen-liking, hopeful romantic. At least 6 group members have met through my meetup events and started dating. I’m happy whenever two people can connect (as long as there’s mutual interest/attraction). However, I also need to be vigilant and diligent. It probably is not easy for some women to go camping with strangers, and whenever other women put trust in me and are willing to attend, I need to look out for their safety and well-being. I have enough to stress about: ...will people arrive safely (no accidents, flat tires, speeding tickets), have food, water, and all the camping gear they need, sleep okay, stay warm, not get lost / injured, etc… So if you’re a guy who is interested in attending, please “be cool.” If you can help me have one less thing to worry about, it preserves my sanity. So if any women attend, thank you for being respectful toward them. ____________________ Plenty of hiking trails are available to choose from in the Mammoth area (basin, Devils Postpile National Monument, Reds Meadow, etc.). It's also possible to go to nearby areas (e.g. June Lake, Yosemite's Tuolumne Meadows, Lee Vining, Mono Lake, Lundy Canyon, McGee Creek Canyon, Convict Lake, etc. Past years, a few people went to a brewery in June Lake and Mammoth, so if anyone likes beer, that's one idea. Also, some went to a natural hot spring (in the late afternoon or evening) to relax after a long hike. Different hiking trails are available in Mammoth and Eastern Sierra. Links to websites with more info are posted below (scroll down). - If anyone has never gone to Mammoth before, peruse the map on the 2nd page of - http://www.californiafallcolor.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/FallColorMap2017.pdf Technically it's for "Fall Colors" in Autumn, but the map shows the popular areas around Mammoth (Eastern Sierra). Mammoth is # 10 on the map. ____________________ Photos: https://www.meetup.com/OC_Camping/photos/all_photos/?photoAlbumId=29239175 https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/mammoth https://www.instagram.com/visitmammoth https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/easternsierra https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/easternsierras - Videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJtFA2pM_lQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FenzA-loHM ____________________ If anyone can drive and is open to carpooling...or if anyone wants to go, but is looking for a ride: - Post a comment and maybe others will respond - Check the comments section if maybe someone else is offering a ride or needs a ride - Let me (Wiseman) know because sometimes people message me (and they might not post a comment), so I can also try to connect people for carpooling. Note: If you successfully connect with another person for carpooling, please let me know b/c it helps me coordinate the campsite assignments for # of people and vehicles per campsite. In past camping trips, some people became friends through carpooling. Yes, riding with a new person might seem awkward, so feel free to exchange social media, or talk over the phone, or meet for coffee or a hike beforehand to break the ice and become more comfortable with one another. ____________________ Hiking in / near Mammoth: https://www.alltrails.com/us/california/mammoth-lakes http://hikingwalking.com/index.php/destinations/ca/ca_ses/mammoth_lakes https://www.visitmammoth.com/blogs/easy-hikes-around-mammoth-lakes https://www.mammothtrails.org/activity/29 http://www.visitcalifornia.com/destination/spotlight-mammoth-lakes - Hiking outside Mammoth (Eastern Sierra): https://www.visitmammoth.com/blogs/bucket-list-guide-hiking-eastern-sierra http://www.hikingwalking.com/index.php/destinations/ca/ca_ses https://www.monocounty.org/things-to-do/hiking/top-10-trails https://www.alltrails.com/parks/us/california/inyo-national-forest https://www.alltrails.com/parks/us/california/john-muir-wilderness https://www.hikespeak.com/sierras/inyo-national-forest https://modernhiker.com/park/inyo-national-forest ____________________ Everyone can choose what they want to do. Feel free to pick a hiking trail that appeals to you. I personally haven't decided yet. I'm thinking of Ediza Lake. https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/shadow-and-ediza-lakes-trail I'm also thinking of going back to Duck Pass b/c last time I was rushed and the weather was gloomy. https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/duck-lake-trail--2 If anyone wants to do easy trails, consider walking around Twin Lakes, Lake Mary, Lake George, or McLeod Lake near Horseshoe Lake. https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/mcleod-lake-trail https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/lake-mary-loop https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/tj-lake-via-lake-george https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/lake-mary-loop https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/horseshoe-lake-trail--3 A popular hike (relatively short) is Crystal Lake. https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/crystal-lake-trail Rainbow Falls at Devils Postpile is also popular. https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/rainbow-falls-via-devils-postpile-trail Some popular moderate trails include Sherwin Lakes, Valentine Lake, and Heart Lake. https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/sherwin-lakes-trail https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/valentine-lake-trail https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/heart-lake If anyone wants to do a hard/strenuous day-hike, consider Thousand Island Lake loop (which includes Garnet Lake). It's very beautiful imo. https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/thousand-island-lake-via-pct https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/agnew-meadows-to-thousand-island-lake If anyone wants to do an easy walk with a nice view, you can take the ski lift ($) up to Mammoth Mountain, and then hike down, and you should be able to see multiple lakes. Or you can hike from the bottom. I could be wrong, but it might be called something like Up Dragons Back to Seven Lakes Point. https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/up-dragons-back-to-seven-lakes-point If anyone wants to do that one, research on your own or lmk and I'll try to remember which campsite the trailhead at Twin Lakes campground it starts at. ____________________ In addition to hiking, swimming at a lake is another idea (Crystal Lake or McLeod Lake). Or going to a nearby hot spring to relax is also possible. One is called something like Willy Wonka or Wet Willy. https://www.yelp.com/biz/wild-willys-hot-spring-mammoth-lakes - Other Hot Springs: https://whenyouwander.com/5-best-free-hot-springs-in-mammoth-lakes-california https://nobackhome.com/hot-springs-near-mammoth https://fittowander.com/2015/05/03/hot-springs-mammoth-california ____________________ Again, if hiking isn't your thing, you can... - rent a kayak or stand-up paddle board at one of the lakes - fishing - rent a bike (there are mountain bike trails for those who like riding on dirt...and also paved roads to the Mammoth Lakes Basin where you can see most of the lakes) - horseback riding - swimming - relax at a hot spring ____________________ Examples of recommended items to bring: - Bug spray / Insect repellent / Mask nets Sleeping bag + pillow Sleeping pad / mat or air mattress Tent (or share with someone who has one) Appropriate clothes, socks, & shoes Toothbrush, toothpaste, & other hygiene items / toiletries Lip balm / chapstick Hand sanitizer or baby wipes / wet naps Sunglasses, sunscreen, and a hat or a bandana Earplugs Flashlight / Headlamp Portable chair Cell phone charger cable (car adapter) or portable charger Water or water filter Water bottles or hydration pack Food (and cookware) Towel, soap, shampoo, & flip-flops / water sandals (if showering) Swimwear (if going to a hot spring) Music or games https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/family-camping-checklist.html ____________________ * Some other camping events on Meetup might prohibit kids. I admire parents who introduce their child(ren) to the outdoors and respect parents who encourage kids to take a break from tv, video games, phones, computers, etc.. So parents and kids are welcome to join. I usually ask for a payment per person (adult), so kids who attend are free. As long as there’s space/room at the campsite, and the child genuinely wants to attend, and it’s not a large # of kids (boys/girls scouts, youth group, etc.). Some people on Meetup don’t want kids to attend, but I try to be cool, understanding, and supportive of parents. However, we want to avoid a situation where a kid is dragged to camping trip and doesn’t want to be there (foul/negative mood, tantrum, drama, etc.)....so thank you for your cooperation. ____________________ One group member contacted me about fishing. I personally don't know much, so you'll have to research on your own...but I remember seeing others fishing in this area before. - https://www.visitmammoth.com/fishing https://www.visitmammoth.com/trip-ideas/fishing-mammoth-lakes https://www.visitmammoth.com/trip-ideas/fishing-mammoth-lakes-basin https://mammothweb.com/recreation/fishing.cfm https://www.mammothtrails.org/activity/31/fishing https://www.facebook.com/groups/easternsierrafishing https://www.facebook.com/EasternSierraFishReports https://www.facebook.com/groups/1988144838072674 ____________________ Photo Source/Credit: AllTrips, Backcountrycow, Josh Wray, Mammoth Lakes Tourism, Mammount Mountain Ski Area, Monica Prelle, Peter B. Kunasz, and Visit California ____________________ The following is just filler that I need to add b/c Meetup has some weird character limit, and I might need to add to this description later...so the following is just a short story that you can ignore...it's seriously just filler. - Genesis and Catastrophe Roald Dahl “Everything is normal,” the doctor was saying. “Just lie back and relax.” His voice was miles away in the distance and he seemed to be shouting at her. “You have a son.” “What?” “You have a fine son. You understand that, don’t you? A fine son. Did you hear him crying?” “Is he all right, Doctor?” “Of course he is all right,” “Please let me see him.” “You’ll see him in a moment.” “You are certain he is all right?” “I am quite certain.” “Is he still crying?” “Try to rest. There is nothing to worry about.” “Why has he stopped crying, Doctor? What happened?” “Don’t excite yourself, please. Everything is normal.” “I want to see him. Please let me see him.” “Dear lady,” the doctor said, patting her hand. “You have a fine strong healthy child. Don’t you believe me when I tell you that?” “What is the woman over there doing to him?” “Your baby is being made to look pretty for you,” the doctor said. “We are giving him a little wash, that is all. You must spare us a moment or two for that.” “You swear he is all right?”

Beach Day @ Huntington Beach

Huntington Beach All Inclusive Playground

Hi. This is different. https://liferollson.org/huntingtonbeach Many of you have various options of things to do and places to go on Saturday, but if anyone doesn't have any plans and is looking for something to do, consider this unique event. A non-profit called Life Rolls On helps people with physical disabilities go surfing. Some participants probably don't normally swim, so this cool event makes it possible for them to enjoy being in the ocean water. I personally plan on staying the whole event, but if anyone doesn't have time to commit for the entire event, totally fine. Feel free to stop by for an hour or two, hang out at the beach, and watch & cheer. (Arrive and leave whenever you want). This is a pretty heart-warming, uplifting, and inspirational event. ____________________ My definition of "fun" differs from others...but if a few people are open to going (feel free to use the comments section to discuss & coordinate carpooling). If a few people don't plan on watching football and aren't busy, maybe you can have a fun day at the beach. :) ____________________ I try to spread the word about volunteer opportunities and raise awareness about non-profits/charities that do good work. This event is from Life Rolls On. "Life Rolls On is dedicated to improving the quality of life for people affected by spinal cord injury" and other disabilities. They host "epic surf and skate events for wheelchair athletes." https://liferollson.org - Their video shows what they're about https://vimeo.com/109601866 ____________________ 2019 Schedule - https://liferollson.org/tour-2019 - June 1 - Santa Monica - https://liferollson.org/santamonica July 13 - Venice - https://liferollson.org/venice Aug 24 - Huntington Beach - https://liferollson.org/huntingtonbeach Sept 22 - La Jolla - https://liferollson.org/lajolla ____________________ Photos: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1718146218295414 https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1718043311639038 https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1299737523469621 https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1286605771449463 https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1209250355851672 https://www.facebook.com/pg/LifeRollsOnFoundation/photos/?tab=albums https://www.six12media.com/Surfing/Life-Rolls-On - Videos: https://vimeo.com/109601866 https://vimeo.com/184759861 ____________________ Recommended items to bring: Sunscreen, sunglasses, hat, comfortable clothes, flip-flops / sandals, towel, water, change of clothes, etc. Free snacks and water are sometimes provided. ____________________

Camping, Hiking, Swimming, Yoga, & Relaxing @ Sedona

Sedona Visitor Center

Hi, Meetup added a character limit to descriptions, and I wasn't able to fit everything on here. Succinct writing isn't my forte. Anyhow, it's a long description, so it's your choice to read the following Google Doc or not. https://docs.google.com/document/d/13wGoEZovIOlajUGIHBNTmvniUoqweyHNLQLcW5mZkSM ____________________ Labor Day weekend Drive time is about: 7 - 8 hours from OC - https://goo.gl/maps/ZQHbxUp6j992 7.5 - 8.5 hours from LA - https://goo.gl/maps/c2uV6ekaFhT2 ____________________ The start time posted is 5:00 pm, but this event is flexible. If anyone wants to leave SoCal on Friday morning or early afternoon to beat holiday traffic, that's totally fine. Or if anyone wants to start earlier and go on Thursday, lmk and we can talk about it. ____________________ FAQ Q: Whatever your question is... A: Please read this Google Doc first - https://docs.google.com/document/d/13wGoEZovIOlajUGIHBNTmvniUoqweyHNLQLcW5mZkSM Thank you. ____________________ Photos - https://www.meetup.com/OC_Camping/photos/all_photos/?photoAlbumId=28139027 https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/sedona https://www.instagram.com/explore/locations/213540014/sedona-arizona Videos - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xywb_suJzo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JluoxvFeeaA ____________________ Photo Source/Credit: Lonely Planet & Visit Sedona

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