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Orlando Tea Party Network Message Board › My Changed View on Ron Paul

My Changed View on Ron Paul

A former member
Post #: 31
I know this is going to get me yelled at, but frankly I think the Hitler ad is brilliant.
A former member
Post #: 451
Ex-Aide to Ron Paul Makes Stunning Claims About Old Boss: Anti-Israel, 9/11 Truther, Doesn’t Believe U.S. Had Any Business Fighting Hitler

Eric Dondero, who worked for Ron Paul on and off for a total of 12 years dating back to 1987, released a jaw-dropping statement in Right Wing News Monday in regards to his old boss. It appears Dondero wrote the statement to answer questions presented to him of late by various media outlets in regards to controversial newsletters connected to the congressman that have consumed his campaign for President. While attempting to defend Paul as not being a “racist” or “homophobic,” as many have accused him of being given the hateful language in the newsletters, Dondero “sets the record straight” by making shocking claims about the beliefs and behind-closed-doors statements of the man vying to be Commander in Chief. The Paul campaign has already reacted to Dondero’s claims, labeling him as a disgruntled ex-employee. Nonetheless, the allegations are astounding.

Dondero begins by strongly refuting claims that Paul is a “racist,” saying he never heard Paul make any racist comments in the 12 years he worked for the man, and makes clear that the congressman has frequently hired blacks and Hispanics for his office staff. However, Dondero makes “one caveat,“ stating that Paul is ”out of touch,” with both Hispanic and Black culture:

“He is completely clueless when it comes to Hispanic and Black culture, particularly Mexican-American culture. And he is most certainly intolerant of Spanish and those who speak strictly Spanish in his presence, (as are a number of Americans, nothing out of the ordinary here.)”

Dondero, who is half-Jewish himself, says Paul is not Anti-Semitic. He says Paul has no issue with Jewish-Americans and can “categorically” say that he has never heard anything Anti-Semitic, slurs or any sort of derogatory marks come out of Paul’s mouth. However, Dondero claims Paul is “most certainly Anti-Israel, and Anti-Israeli in general:”

“He wishes the Israeli state did not exist at all. He expressed this to me numerous times in our private conversations. His view is that Israel is more trouble than it is worth, specifically to the America taxpayer. He sides with the Palestinians, and supports their calls for the abolishment of the Jewish state, and the return of Israel, all of it, to the Arabs.”

Dondero moves to the claims that Rep. Paul is a “homo-phobe.“ The former aide claims that Paul is not bigoted towards homosexuals but ”personally uncomfortable” around them. Dondero points to two instances to back his claims. One being in 1988, when Paul was staying with an openly gay Libertarian supporter for a 3-day campaign swing in the SF Bay Area, and pulled the young personal assistant aside demanding Dondero find a bathroom he could use because he did not want to use the one at his homosexual friend’s home. The second instance occurred many years later when a fellow staffer told Dondero that Paul allegedly swatted away a handshake from flamboyant gay man who was a “hardcore campaign supporter.”

After giving his piece on the areas he feels the “liberal media is ferociously attacking Ron” on, like “stupid and whacky things on race and gays he may have said or written in the past,” Dondero moves to what he considers the real problem with his old boss: foreign policy.

Based on countless “arguments/discussions” with Paul over the years, Dondero claims that no matter how hard the candidate denies it “Ron Paul is most assuredly an isolationist.”

“For example, he strenuously does not believe the United States had any business getting involved in fighting Hitler in WWII. He expressed to me countless times, that ‘saving the Jews,’ was absolutely none of our business. When pressed, he often times brings up conspiracy theories like FDR knew about the attacks of Pearl Harbor weeks before hand, or that WWII was just ‘blowback,’ for Woodrow Wilson’s foreign policy errors, and such. ”

Moving to more contemporary subjects, Dondero states “with absolute certainty” that Paul was opposed to the War in Afghanistan and to any military reaction to the 9/11 attacks.

“He immediately stated to us staffers, me in particular, that Bush/Cheney were going to use the attacks as a precursor for ‘invading’ Iraq. He engaged in conspiracy theories including perhaps the attacks were coordinated with the CIA, and that the Bush administration might have known about the attacks ahead of time. He expressed no sympathies whatsoever for those who died on 9/11, and pretty much forbade us staffers from engaging in any sort of memorial expressions, or openly asserting pro-military statements in support of the Bush administration.”

Dondero claims that Paul, up to the eve of the resolution vote, was telling staffers that he planned to vote “No” on a resolution initiating the War in Afghanistan. Dondero claims that all of the congressman’s district staff told his Chief of Staff that they would immediately resign if Ron voted “No.”

“At the very last minute Ron switched his stance and voted ‘Yay,’ much to the great relief of Jackie and I. He never explained why, but I strongly suspected that he realized it would have been political suicide; that staunchly conservative Victoria would revolt, and the Republicans there would ensure that he would not receive the nomination for the seat in 2002.”

The claims come just over a week before the start of Republican primary voting.

Eric Dondero was a Senior Aide to Congressman Paul from 1997-2003, Ron Paul for Congress Campaign Coordinator from 1995-1996, National Organizer for Draft Ron Paul for President from 1991-1992, and a personal assistant for Ron, Libertarian for President from 1987-1988. That said, Dondero’s claims should be taken with a grain of salt.

Paul campaign manager Jesse Benton emailed The Weekly Standard Sunday afternoon in regards to Dondero’s latest statement:

“Eric Dondero is a disgruntled former staffer who was fired for performance issues. He has zero credibility and should not be taken seriously.”

A Facebook group was created during the 2008 campaign, titled “Eric Dondero is Slime!” making similar allegations to Benton, that Dondero is a disgruntled former employee attempting to enact an unjust revenge on his former boss.

Dondero disputes he was fired, telling CBS News he resigned in 2003 after going “back and forth” with Paul for months. Dondero even challenged Paul for his congressional seat in 2007.

Dondero is currently the publisher and editor of LibertarianRepublican.net.
Dick F.
Dick_Fox
Orlando, FL
Post #: 487
Herb,

A number of historians and contemporaries of WWII have said that we should not have entered the wa. There was even a government investigation of FDR's handling of Pearl Harbor that implicates the government in allowing the attack.

Pat Buchanan is one who has done extensive writing on how the US could have stayed out of WWII. There is a strong school of thought that part of the reason FDR drove us into WWII was because he was losing his reelection bid and a war would gain him sufficient support to win another term.

I think I have made myself clear that I disagree with Ron Paul on foreign policy but this analysis of Dondero is simply another hit job by the MSM. It is fine to oppose Paul but let's not giver the MSM any support.
Peter L.
user 11751558
Orlando, FL
Post #: 7
I have read all of these posts. Mostly angry rhetoric against this candidate or against that candidate.

One person suggested that we "google" charges against a candidate.... The internet is a haven for opinion and hit pieces. the more outrageous the claim, the more links to it receives, The more pages linking to it the higher it shows in your search. The truth is not necessarily on the first few pages of results.

Negative comments get readers but these bomb throwing soliloquies are charged with language that frame the conversation to persuade you to believe half truths or complete fabrications.

There is no deficit of negative things we can say about the candidates. All of them, of all political parties. If we focus only on the negative we will determine that all but our select candidate is the devil incarnate who must never be allowed victory.

Most of these conversations fail to balance the good and the bad which leads to infighting. I challenge you. Before you write a negative comment about a candidate, also mention a positive comment about the same person.

We are independent, so we have our own ideas. We are individuals so we have our own experiences. We are not a collective so that makes getting along a little more challenging. Speak you mind but also teach your mind to be kind.
A former member
Post #: 2

I read through this list put together and well referenced. I hope you have the chance to read through it to help you determine who your candidate is.
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Dick F.
Dick_Fox
Orlando, FL
Post #: 491
Kathy,

Thank you very much. The list did not change my mind but it did help me firm up my opinions. But it did give me a lot of information to counter what others have claimed about candidates. This is invaluable.
A former member
Post #: 3
Ron Paul




Ronald Ernest "Ron" Paul (born August 20, 1935) is an American physician, author, Republican United States Congressman, and repeat candidate for President of the United States. He has been an outspoken critic of American foreign and monetary policies, renowned for sharply opposing his own party on many issues.

In 1968, Paul and his wife relocated to Texas, where he continued his medical work. Trained in obstetrics and gynecology, Paul then began his own private practice.[13] As a physician, Paul routinely lowered fees or worked for free and refused to accept Medicaid or Medicare payments.[14][15] A 2002 newsletter of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) listed Paul as a member.[16]

As a member of Congress, he continues to refuse to sign up for the government pension that he would be entitled to in order to avoid receiving government money, saying it would be "hypocritical and immoral."[


Political Views
Paul has been described as conservative, Constitutionalist, and libertarian.[8] According to University of Georgia political scientist Keith Poole, Paul had the most conservative voting record of any member of Congress since 1937.[194] He has been nicknamed "Dr. No",[19] representing both his medical degree and his insistence that he will "never vote for legislation unless the proposed measure is expressly authorized by the Constitution",[30] and "Mr. Republican".[195] One scoring method published in the American Journal of Political Science[196] found Paul the most conservative of all 3,320 members of Congress from 1937 to 2002.[197] Paul's foreign policy of nonintervention[198] made him the only 2008 Republican presidential candidate to have voted against the Iraq War Resolution in 2002. He advocates withdrawal from the United Nations, and from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, for reasons of maintaining strong national sovereignty.[199] He endorses free trade, rejecting membership in the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and the World Trade Organization as "managed trade". He endorses increased border security and opposes welfare for illegal aliens, birthright citizenship and amnesty;[200] he voted for the Secure Fence Act of 2006. He voted for the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Terrorists in response to the September 11 attacks, but suggested war alternatives such as authorizing the president to grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal targeting specific terrorists. An opponent of the Iraq War and potential war with Iran, he has also criticized neoconservatism and U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East, arguing that both inadvertently cause terrorist reprisals against Americans. Paul has stated that "Israel is our close friend" and that it is not the place of the United States to "dictate how Israel runs her affairs".[201]

Paul is a proponent of Austrian School economics; he has authored six books on the subject, and displays pictures of Austrian School economists Friedrich Hayek, Murray Rothbard, and Ludwig von Mises (as well as of Grover Cleveland)[85] on his office wall. He regularly votes against almost all proposals for new government spending, initiatives, or taxes;[66] he cast two thirds of all the lone negative votes in the House during a 1995–1997 period.[19] He has pledged never to raise taxes[202] and states he has never voted to approve a budget deficit. Paul believes that the country could abolish the individual income tax by scaling back federal spending to its fiscal year 2000 levels;[90][203] financing government operations would be primarily by excise taxes and non-protectionist tariffs. He endorses eliminating most federal government agencies, terming them unnecessary bureaucracies. Paul has a consistent record as an inflation hawk[dead link], having warned of the threat of hyperinflation as far back as 1981.[204] While Paul believes the longterm decrease of the U.S. dollar's purchasing power by inflation is attributable to its lack of any commodity backing, he does not endorse a "return" to a gold standard – as the U.S. government has established during the past – but instead prefers to eliminate legal tender laws and to remove the sales tax on gold and silver, so that the market may freely decide what type of monetary standard(s) there shall be.[205] He also advocates gradual elimination of the Federal Reserve System.[206]

Paul endorses constitutional rights, such as the right to keep and bear arms, and habeas corpus for political detainees. He opposes the Patriot Act, federal use of torture, presidential autonomy, a national identification card, warrantless domestic surveillance, and the draft. Citing the Ninth and Tenth Amendments, Paul advocates states' rights to decide how to regulate social matters not cited directly by the Constitution. Paul terms himself "strongly pro-life",[207] "an unshakable foe of abortion",[208] and believes regulation or ban[209] on medical decisions about maternal or fetal health is "best handled at the state level".[210][211] He says his years as an obstetrician led him to believe life begins at conception;[212] his abortion-related legislation, like the Sanctity of Life Act, is intended to negate Roe v. Wade and to get "the federal government completely out of the business of regulating state matters."[213] Paul also believes that the notion of the separation of church and state is currently misused by the court system: "In case after case, the Supreme Court has used the infamous 'separation of church and state' metaphor to uphold court decisions that allow the federal government to intrude upon and deprive citizens of their religious liberty."[214]

He opposes federal regulation of the death penalty[210] (although he opposes capital punishment),[215] of education,[216] and of marriage, and endorsed revising the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy to concern mainly disruptive sexual behavior (whether heterosexual or homosexual).[217] As a free-market environmentalist, he asserts private property rights in relation to environmental protection and pollution prevention.[citation needed] In 2009, he claimed that climate change is a hoax.[218] He also opposes the federal War on Drugs,[219] and believes the states should decide whether to regulate or deregulate drugs such as medical marijuana.[220] Paul pushes to eliminate federal involvement with and management of health care, which he argues would allow prices to decrease due to the fundamental dynamics of a free market.[221] Referring to the federal government, Ron Paul has also stated that "The government shouldn't be in the medical business." He is also opposed to federal government influenza inoculation programs.[222] He is an outspoken proponent for increased ballot access for 3rd party candidates and numerous election law reforms which he believes would allow more voter control.[223]

Paul was critical of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, arguing that it sanctioned federal interference in the labor market and did not improve race relations. He once remarked: "The Civil Rights Act of 1964 not only violated the Constitution and reduced individual liberty; it also failed to achieve its stated goals of promoting racial harmony and a color-blind society".[224] Paul opposes affirmative action.[225]

On April 15, 2011, Paul was one of four Republican members of Congress to vote against "The Path to Prosperity".[
Dick F.
Dick_Fox
Orlando, FL
Post #: 498
The defense plan just announced by Barak Obama is right out of the Ron Paul playbook. Look at it closely. The world is not a playground where everyone plays nice. The world is a playground with bullies and bad people who want to take your lunch money. Don't forget the lessons you learned in kindergarten.
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