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Re: [Orlando-iOS-Developer-Group] Young developer seeks assistance

From: Luis A.
Sent on: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 6:14 PM
I know that we all want to make a larger community of developers here in Orlando, but I feel that there is a strong mentality of "only if I get paid", happening here.

I think we should tackle this like many hacker spaces have. Someone bring an idea, and a bunch of people jump into to help provide guidance and knowledge. Find a need with your device and let's make it happen. After having to delve into android this past semester myself, I find I may be more comfortable with starting objective C. I would love to find a project that just forces me to learn by necessity.

Once we build on this, we will have created a whole community of people ready to help with any project brought our way. This would also benefit young developers looking for help and know how. 

Thanks,
-Luis Ayuso

On Apr 30, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Peter Wright <[address removed]> wrote:

I agree it would be nice to build a collaborative community down here, but that's already happening and taking place and has been for some time.  Groups like this one, companies like Izea, EnvyLabs, Rock Purple Scissors etc are also playing key roles in helping that happen. 

Back on the topic of this particular app, I'm sorry but I'm trying very hard to completely ignore the gender issue here because that's exactly what the strong women in our industry have told us to do - we are all equals. So, I believe it is right to completely ignore the picture of the pretty blonde girl and focus on the app and the campaign. 

In terms of the campaign, this is a Full Sail project, so there's a pretty sizable community around her already that is more than capable of helping her bring the idea to fruition, or at least create a prototype. 

Second, there is no prototype. I've raised funds on IndieGogo in the past (charity work) and reported on kickstarters and indiegogo campaigns as a journalist - without something tangible there's no reason to invest. All there is here is a nascent idea, and more worrying still after you've read that page in full you have been given lots of information that is liberally sprinkled with trademark notices and warnings of an pending patent application. I do worry that even publishing all that stuff is already a case of someone somewhere reaching out to tell anyone else with a similar idea, perhaps further along and better executed, to stop now or get sued.

If there's one thing that we all should rally against it's patents in software. I'm sure I'm not the only one here with apps on the app store with in app purchase options that are now at risk of being sued because of just how ridiculous software patents are.  I wouldn't ever condone supporting a software project that is proud of its patent claims.

So, in summary - this is a student, who is in a program surrounded by other students many of whom live sleep and breathe code, who's already got her eyes very much set on "mine mine mine" prize, asking for cash for an idea that doesn't even have a prototype yet … you get the idea. 

The original email asked if it would be good idea for her to come and present at a meeting. Why? She's not done anything yet. I'd prefer to see developers with prototypes, apps that are on sale, even apps that have completely failed, because therein lies something literally brimming with useful stuff to learn. 


Again just my personal opinion.




On Apr 30, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Carlos Carbonell <[address removed]> wrote:

I think the point may be missed to a degree. In my opinion, I am very encouraged that this is a young woman with an ambition to create. You don't have to donate but perhaps the suggestion to find out more about the idea was an impetus for Rodney to even bring it up to the group.  
The other interesting thing I see is that if someone is trying to raise money for an app, it could be to hire one of you to build it, so why not help her?  

Not getting on a soap box but perhaps where I am at the moment has me inspired and encouraged that a tech community can be built through a groundswell of collaboration (I'm in NY for a week participating in NY Tech Day - showcasing a product - and now at Techcrunch's Disrupt NY). The degree of collaboration in the NY tech community is incredible, and I think we need to replicate that spirit in Orlando. It kills me that we'll buy chocolate for a coworker's kids fundraiser from school, but we don't support initiatives like this. 
Bottom line, it's great that her father is supporting her (and in a nontraditional area for a woman) so kudos to her, to her family and to whomever encourages her to pursue this. 
Let's support each other more. 

Sorry for the rant and no offense to anyone, all opinions are valid and mine is certainly not necessarily the better one. 


On Apr 30, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Brandon S. Levasseur wrote:

I hate to say it but I agree with Peter Wright on this. I've had a great game idea pocketed that I can't create due to time/money constraints and I'd personally love to go on a fund raiser to build something out of the blue that I've never built before. People of all ages do this stuff every day, especially in the gaming business. It's honestly not a real special thing anymore. I'd really have to know more about the person's situation and abilities rather here's my idea and give me money. Not to mention I'm sure that we're all trying to push our own projects out there that require similar time/motivation/resources that we could all use. I also really hate the idea of passing money to someone who can promote themselves from their good looks and connections rather someone who truly has talent/abilities with the lacks of connections but an abundance of ambition/ideas/creativity/skill/etc. I consistently see the wrong people granted money due to reasons like this (working at a college, you see this a lot) and it makes me fairly skeptical. Call me wrong, but usually the people who really need the money, are the ones who aren't advertised front forth. What I'm saying may be under explained (mostly because I'm rush typing), but I'm sure the just of it is there.




Brandon Levasseur

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On Apr 24, 2013, at 8:34 PM, BC <[address removed]> wrote:

Hey all, lets help this very special young lady achieve her goal. Let's us the power of social media to tell everyone!

 
High school girl takes on app heavyweights
 
ORLANDO – A high school student from Orlando is betting the house that she can “trump” the big boys at their own game.
 
Karly Campbell, 18,  has reinvented the centuries-old game of blackjack with new rules, new features and new look that she hopes will appeal to gamers of all ages. Because the game is the first of its kind and includes a “trump” card to help players beat the dealer, it has been aptly titled, Trumped: Genesis.
 
“Millions of people worldwide play blackjack, but to me it can get boring after a while,” Karly said. “Genesis is cool, fun and exciting. It  keeps people interested because it combines a totally new scoring system with all the cool elements found in other new games.”
 
Trumped: Genesis is a RPG-type mobile app where players choose their avatars then compete against the dealer and/or other players. Players increase their skills and abilities by winning hands, collecting coins, Trump cards, treasures and other rare items. As players advance, they can use the items to upgrade avatars and achieve milestones. Players can progress from “Novice” all the way to “Grandmaster” and unlock levels to play in tournaments, play with friends and even engage in “boss battles,” where players go head-to-head with the Ultimate Pit Boss in a fight to the death.
 
Karly said a patent has been filed for the game with the help of her father. She said she hopes to begin development within the next 60 days and continue her career as an entrepreneur.
 
 
 
 
 




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