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At this point the topic is to be determined, I will update the info when I have something prepared. Regardless of the topic, I'm sure we will have an interesting conversation as usual.

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  • Jane S.

    Just a reminder to all those donating tomorrow - will need an ID such as your DL or Red Cross donation card. J

    February 15, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    To Dean's point, I think it's clear from the text that Constitutional amendments can be proposed by having either Congress vote for it or 33 state legislatures convene a Constitutional Convention. It would seem though that the state legislatures are the ones that have to actually adopt the amendment.

    To Jane's article, as a substitute teacher I am surprised by how much religiosity the public schools and teachers are permitted to get away with. I subbed in a Tazewell County school recently where a teacher has a sign up next to the U.S. flag that says in big letters "One Nation Under God". I think all the teachers say that phrase when reciting the pledge with the kids as well. So, I am not surprised at all to hear that a school has a Jesus painting up in the hallway.

    To Nick's point, I would just say I don't want to stifle conversation, but I think we might stay on topic more frequently if the conversation were guided by some main topic like school prayer, or whatever.

    February 13, 2013

  • Jane S.

    Journal Star today, page A2, under National Report: 'Ohio school board votes to keep Jesus portrait up'! Excuse is that a club, and not the school, owns the photo and it must protect free speech rights.

    February 13, 2013

    • Nick D.

      Here is a link to the story on NBC news

      http://www.nbcnews.co...­

      It's a shame that the school board doesn't see how this is unconstitutional and wrong. Let's hope that the courts make the right decision.

      February 13, 2013

  • Nick D.

    It does happen sometimes that our discussions vary from issues that are central to the group. Actually, it's not unusual when discussing political issues such as church and state separation for us to veer off onto other areas of politics, such as legalization of marijuana, the process for amending the constitution, minimum wage standards and whatever else we got into.

    I guess my question is: is this a good or a bad thing? I personally think it's alright once in a while provided that it doesn't happen all of the time. What is everybody else's opinion on it? If this is something that is totally unacceptable then I can certainly make efforts to ensure that it doesn't happen again. Thoughts?

    February 13, 2013

  • Dean F.

    Sorry if I dragged the conversation in random directions. BTW, here is the text of the constitution related to amendments (my recollection was a bit off):

    The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

    February 13, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    It felt like many of the topics veered significantly from the central issues of the group. (At one point we were discussing the legalization of marijuana.)

    February 12, 2013

  • Mary Sue Isbell H.

    Sorry, I will not be able to make it.

    February 12, 2013

  • Mary Sue Isbell H.

    I think I can come if it is not too late to join. My son may come too.

    February 12, 2013

  • Erin T.

    This is my first meeting, looking forward to meeting you all

    February 4, 2013

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