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Tuesday Night: Pondering The "Other"

Hello Ponderers!

Somra will be moderating this week and the topic will be The "Other".  It was inspired by this TED talk which you can watch if you'd like, but it won't be required for the meetup.  

http://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_lesser_take_the_other_to_lunch.html 

What groups/kinds of people do you label as "others"?
How do you attempt to break down these barriers?
What role does this kind of labeling play in your family? your politics? your work?
What is the value of eliminating this "other" mentality?

Happy Pondering!



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  • A former member
    A former member

    For the sake of the argument, Jane Elliott (of the famous blue eye/brown eye experiment of 1968) restaged her experiment and at the conclusion, she addresses some interesting issues about the value to us of "Otherness" in our own sense of self.
    http://reverseracism.tumblr.com/post/59802219419/jane-elliot-addresses-racism-colorblindness-and

    March 4, 2014

    • A former member
      A former member

      Finally watched this. Excellent and very thought provoking. Thanks for sharing Marlee.

      March 16, 2014

  • A former member
    A former member

    Got this yesterday in my weekly quotes from Pema Chodron and thought it relevant.

    LIVING WITHOUT AN AGENDA

    Could our minds and our hearts be big enough just to hang out in that space where we’re not entirely certain about who’s right and who’s wrong? Could we have no agenda when we walk into a room with another person, not know what to say, not make that person wrong or right? Could we see, hear, feel other people as they really are? It is powerful to practice this way, because we’ll find ourselves continually rushing around to try to feel secure again—to make ourselves or them either right or wrong. But true communication can happen only in that open space.

    March 6, 2014

  • A former member
    A former member

    Hi folks, if you're interested in building bridges between "self" and "other," check out the message board for a few of the many points made Tuesday night.

    March 5, 2014

  • A former member
    A former member

    For any one interested in the vipassana prison documentary, here it is: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WkxSyv5R1sg Bruce Noll originally posted this is the Ponderers Discussions folder.

    March 5, 2014

  • A former member
    A former member

    Another book I highly recommend is "Tea with Hezbollah: Sitting at the Enemies Table Our Journey Through the Middle East" by Ted Dekker and Carl Medearis http://www.amazon.com/Tea-Hezbollah-Sitting-Enemies-Journey/dp/0307588270

    1 · March 5, 2014

  • A former member
    A former member

    Corrie ten Boom is the one whose sister died in the concentration camp who later met the German guard not in an airport but at after a speaking engagement in Munich....it has been many years since I heard her speak, so please forgive my forgetfulness of the details. You can read her recantation of the encounter here: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/questionofgod/voices/boom.html and I also recommend her book "The Hiding Place" http://www.amazon.com/Hiding-Place-Corrie-Ten-Boom-ebook/dp/B004TS1MGK/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1394012156&sr=1-1&keywords=the+hiding+place

    I think pondering these two stories and approaching each with an open mind will take you far in your understanding just how much the same the "other" can be.

    1 · March 5, 2014

  • A former member
    A former member

    Very nice meeting with you all again. Wonderful discussion with much "food for thought". As requested here are some links for future ponderment. Sorry to say my memory is not what it used to be. Hansi, who I did also meet, was not the story that I recanted, but actually a view from the other side. The book is well worth the reading, if you are inclined: http://www.amazon.com/Hansi-Girl-Left-Swastika-Paperback/dp/0932878091 it is a powerful story of redemption and change, no matter what your "religious" paradigm.

    March 5, 2014

  • A former member
    A former member

    Thank you all for your contributions! I was inspired by the choices many of you have made in your lives to see things from "the others'" perspectives, to expand yourselves in the process, and to build bridges wherever possible in "your own corner of the universe." True, in many cases it may not be as simple as having lunch with "the other." Yet whatever steps we take in our own lives to move towards harmony while honoring others could very well lead to a more harmonious world. But if nothing else, I could see in your faces and hear in your voices that those choices you've made in your own world have made a difference in your lives . . . and quite possibly the lives of those around you. And that, to me, has much more power than may be obvious.

    3 · March 4, 2014

  • Betsye L.

    Got word of acceptance a little too late --- I am already settled in for the evening. Sorry.

    March 4, 2014

  • Gay H.

    I'm sorry to change my reply so late in the game, but there's a very good chance that I might not be able to go, so therefore didn't want to take a space away from someone else that might want to. Have a great discussion, I will definitely miss it.

    March 4, 2014

  • A former member
    A former member

    Doubtful so I will relinquish my spot

    March 4, 2014

  • A former member
    A former member

    I am sorry to say that Barb and I are not going to be able to attend tonight because of something or
    "other"...enjoy. jjG

    March 4, 2014

  • Beth

    Quote from a great lecture series (History of the English Language, taught by Professor Seth Lerer): "The encounter with the 'Other' shapes our sense of self, and English itself is infused with the words of other languages."

    As much as we place ourselves apart, we cannot but be influenced by our contact with the "other." The history of language, esp of the English language, dramatically illustrates this point. It's a monument to fusion: Germanic dialects, Latin, Old Norse, Norman French, assorted African languages, and every native colonial language. And the English would have it that it means something to be "English." Another question: In what way do your encounters with the "other" shape your sense of self?

    March 1, 2014

  • Betsye L.

    Seems that Tuesdays are just not going to be open for pondering any more. Sorry to say good-bye to a good group.

    February 26, 2014

    • A former member
      A former member

      :(

      February 26, 2014

    • Maggie T.

      Sorry to hear this Betsye. If your Tuesdays ever open again, you are always welcome to come back. :)

      February 26, 2014

  • A former member
    A former member

    There seems to be something about tuesday, I'll try again

    February 26, 2014

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