# Royal Oak Riichi

• Apr 14, 2013 · 12:00 PM

Sunday Mahjong in Royal Oak!

We are usually at the big table in the back.

If you RSVP yes and then for whatever reason can't make it later, please change your RSVP to no. Being a 4 player game, we need to know how many people are actually going to be there.

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Limit hands have the highest possible point values.

April 21, 2013

• ##### Steve

Depends on what you mean by 'limit'. Technically all of the hands 5 han and up are called limit hands, because the value of the points is limited and no longer calculated by the good ol' fu^(2+han) scoring.

April 21, 2013

• ##### Steve

Oops, I didn't mean to make this 2 comments, but whatever.

Also, that scoring is wrong, my mistake. It's fu*2^(2+han).

Yakuman is a true limit because the points can't go higher regardless of lucky draws or dora or whatever, and other yaku don't count, although you have to be damn lucky to manage it anyway.

To play what they call aotenjou (in English this means skyrocketing) is without limits... and the points are ridiculous. Example being 5 han 30 fu, a mangan would normally make it 8000, but 30*2^(2+5) = 3840 base which would equate to 15360 on ron.

Limits make cognizance of when you are at 4 han 30 fu necessary. At 7700 points on the ron, it's not worth it to try to weasel your way into one more han, ESPECIALLY with riichi which will alert your opponents when it's only going to net you 300 more points.

I am full of useless information.

April 21, 2013

• ##### Robert P.

I'm digging through the mysteries of Mah Jong scoring. From the scoring card I'm using, it says "Limit" for some of the hands. What exactly does that mean? Thanks for any assistance.

April 21, 2013

• ##### Brian M.

So my guests both canceled on me last minute. I'll be there still around 1, though.

April 14, 2013

• ##### Robert P.

Just a thought - does anyone have a set to bring? I have a cheapie American set, but no betting sticks.

April 13, 2013

• ##### Steve

I can bring my set. I'll be running a little late though and probably not there by noon but closer to 12:30.

1 · April 14, 2013

• ##### Steve

I can come, but I don't really want to make the drive for 3 player... I'll keep an eye open for any more RSVPs.

April 12, 2013

• ##### Brian M.

I'll be there at 1, and my 2 guests should be there at noon.

April 12, 2013

• ##### Brian M.

I'll be attending late (around 1). My guests should be there though.

April 12, 2013

Gotta work :(

April 8, 2013

• ##### Robert P.

Sorry, the reply feature didn't let me add stuff.
Here is the 18 hands link

http://www.japanesemahjong.net/mahjong-rules/yaku/

Here is the 33 hand link (also, what do think about his scoring method?)

http://boardgamegeek.com/image/969792/mahjong

Thanks for any clarification.

April 3, 2013

• ##### Steve

It should be noted that some of the hands, such as san renko and suu renko are often house rules. I've never even heard of shiisan puuta... and 1 other yakuman, dai chisei (the seven great stars, a 7 pairs hand that is a pair of the 7 honor tiles - a double because it stacks with tsuu iiso) is not included.

April 4, 2013

• ##### Steve

Also, dai sha rin has to be pairs of the same suit 2 - 8, not 1 - 7 or 3 - 9 like the picture shows. Some rules require the hand to be in dots only... either way it will be worth a lot even if not a yakuman.

April 4, 2013

33 sounds more accurate. Do you have links to what you are looking at?

April 3, 2013

• ##### Robert P.

This is the link with 18 hands

April 3, 2013

• ##### Robert P.

Hi all. I've been reading up on scoring for Riichi and I have found two sources showing winning hands - one shows 18 winning hands, and the other shows 33 winning hands. Any clarification would be appreciated. Thanks. See you later this month.

April 3, 2013

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