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Re: [sfror] Looking for 2 Lead ROR Developers in SF!

From: Samer M.
Sent on: Saturday, June 16, 2012 1:36 AM
It's a relationship between the recruiter and the developer.  As a dev you want to know that the recruiter understands what your interests are.  As an employer you want devs who are interested in what your developing.  Recruiters are the only ones who take the time to find out more about what your looking for besides the job description or the site.  At One Kings Lane our site is tailored for a certain customer group so devs have a hard time discovering how much tech we have by our site alone.


On Jun 15, 2012, at 11:32 PM, Vladimir Gurovich <[address removed]> wrote:

Ditto on Crunchbase as well as HackerNews.

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Azat Mardanov <[address removed]> wrote:
Vladimir, good catch! This make so much sense for the added value of recruiters: "job description was a copy paste from" :)

Personally, I prefer to know the company name upfront. It's website, CrunchBase profile and founders tell a lot of information before even considering the position.

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 9:05 PM, Vladimir Gurovich <[address removed]> wrote:
It seems a catch 22 type of situation: On one hand, recruiter may help you with negotiation. On another, a recruiter is getting a cut of what you might be getting, so the advantage of recruiter negotiating for you may cancel itself out.
I see your point about extra info that a recruiter may be able to provide, in this case the job description was a copy paste from company's site which allowed me to google the company in an instant though :)

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:12 PM, cody voellinger <[address removed]> wrote:

That’s true Erik, but from a Recruiter’s perspective, that’s not my main concern with displaying the company name.  A recruiter can help a candidate who is applying in many ways- company insight, interview prep, salary negotiations, and getting their resume heard above the rest.  So I feel most candidates would prefer to work with a recruiter, assuming the recruiter is a good one.


The reason I am often reluctant to give out a client name initially, is because the natural response is to jump to the company’s website and make a quick decision whether it is interesting or not.


Often times, these decisions are not completely informed.  There is a lot of info I want to provide about the team size, culture, current projects and future direction of the company that should weigh into making that an interesting place to work.  But that info would get ignored as soon as a hyperlink is provided…


My $.02, have a good weekend all!


From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Erik Petersen
Sent: Friday, June 15,[masked]:01 PM
To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: [sfror] Looking for 2 Lead ROR Developers in SF!


Recruiters don't want you to apply directly because then they don't get a commission.

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Mehul Kar <[address removed]> wrote:

I'm relatively new to this list and to programming, but isn't it important for developers (or anyone) to know from job postings what company/product they're applying for? I guess I don't understand how recruiters work. 




Mehul Kar

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Nicole Blincoe <[address removed]> wrote:

Looking for Jr. and Lead ROR Developers!

Contract to hire or Direct Hire:)


What you’ll do…

• Operate as a member of the agile development team.

• Pair program with other top notch rails engineers, developing across the full stack of functionality from database to front end.

• Build full stack automation tests to ensure that the shipped product is as solid and reliable.

• Work on chef recipes to deploy production system changes, in a paired environment.

• Resolve production defects and respond to direct customer needs.


Skills we’d like to see…

• Real world experience with Ruby on Rails in a production environment.

• Experience working and deploy on Linux systems.

• Familiarity with cloud based deployments.

• Browser automation experience, with Selenium or other related technologies.

• Database experience, preferably with PostgreSQL or a similar system.

• Chef experience, or other system automation technology a plus.


What’s in it for you…

• To become part of a team that is new, energized and going places…fast.

• You’ll be working in the Financial District with close proximity to transportation, places to dine, glasses of wine and stands for shoe shines.

• And, the best part – Happy Hour Fridays on the CEO.


Please email me at [address removed]



Nicole Blincoe

Sr. Staffing Manager

Mainz Brady Group, Inc.

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