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HIV Today in the US of A –What To Do?: for Positives and Negatives

HIV Today in the US of A –What To Do?: for Positives and Negatives

     We will examine together the personal, medical & political/social issues for negatives and positives involved with HIV today.  Though retrovirals and other medications have reduced the severity of the epidemic, many issues remain. 
     After a general introduction from individuals dealing with these personal, medical and social issues, small groups will divide up and examine:

• Medical:
     Are attitudes – and/OR the realities -- about safety changing now that we have drugs that can provide a near normal lifespan and alleviate distressing health consequences?  What are the issues of PReP (Pre-exposure Prophylaxsis) – their effectiveness and consequences for transmission; does it promote unwise risk taking? What are the choices surrounding free clinics and free testing? Sex clubs and bathouses?

• Personal:
     Dating and HIV – do you ask?; how do you ask? If poz, do you have an obligation to disclose?  If disclosure isn’t done, what does that do to the level of trust in our community – and the wider society?  Do you limit who you date because of your status, negative or positive?  Is there a stigma from being positive? Do people with HIV suffer feelings of isolation?

• Political/Social:
     Living with HIV – your relationships, attitudes, concerns, problems, joys? Has our community’s interest been “burning out” regarding HIV?  Do some gay men not wish to talk anymore about HIV?  Is discrimination still an issue?  Is there adequate political support?

•      At the end of the Salon we will gather together again to share what has been learned and for some social time.

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  • grahame p.

    Thx for the group for letting me show my work. I appreciate it. The series can be seen at my website at http://grahameperryphotography.com/am-i-blue/

    It was a fine evening and apologies if I talked to much.

    2 · January 10, 2014

  • Joel

    Super....Our group was terrific

    1 · January 8, 2014

    • Patrick

      Joel, thanks to you and Jesse for organizing such a great salon! Also, I really appreciated your introduction to the topic, it was extremely engaging. Thanks again.

      1 · January 9, 2014

    • Lorenzo

      I agree. Joel's introduction was impressive and provided good context. Likewise, Grahame's presentation was excellent. However, even after I asked Jesse to explain his topic I didn't get a serious answer. With 12 people in that group it was difficult to get equal time for everyone to share and we started at a very negative place. One participant wanted to know how to "politely" find out if someone is HIV positive before getting serious about dating them? It took a long time to dig out of that and get to a more intellectual discussion of HIV and relationships. Good sharing though of experiences by participants and the group seemed almost evenly split between HIV positive and negative.

      January 9, 2014

  • Chris A.

    It was informative. Professional sharers need to be monitored and limited to sharing time when it becomes apparent that they cannot see that they are dominating the space.

    January 9, 2014

    • Devon R.

      I know in the group I was in there were there where quiet moments when no one was. contributing. There were also other times the facilitators in my group did ask if anyone had anything they wanted to share, a few times. The topic is broad and you are always welcome to continue the conversation here.

      2 · January 9, 2014

    • Devon R.

      Oops, wrote that too fast and didnt proof read.

      2 · January 9, 2014

  • A former member
    A former member

    Very informative

    1 · January 9, 2014

  • A former member
    A former member

    Hi Guys,
    Very informative and useful conversation. Thank you to all the organizers and participants.
    JC

    1 · January 9, 2014

  • Oscar V.

    nice intelligent dialogs.

    1 · January 8, 2014

  • Brian

    I'm sorry guys. I really wanted to attend this one but last minute deadline. I'll be working late :(

    January 8, 2014

  • A former member
    A former member

    Iffy if I can make it.. my car just died and may or may not be out of the shop by then. Fingers crossed, I'd like to attend.

    January 7, 2014

  • Joel

    The topic of HIV will be interesting....there will be three break-out sessions, none of which will be didactic. They will be explained before each participant selects which group to attend.
    Regarding the sex-for-pay topic, so far I haven't found anyone willing to go above a dollar.

    1 · January 2, 2014

  • Richard S.

    When I say next month's salon, I meant the one after the HIV salon, "Sex for Pay" which will be in Feb. We hope to have a description for that up sometime next month.

    1 · December 23, 2013

  • Richard S.

    Dear Devon,

    In response to the issue of when we put up descriptions for specific salons, please keep in mind that we are a voluntary organization. As volunteers, members of the planning committee have a finite amount of time to devote to planning the salons. As such, we tend to plan the salons on a month-to-month basis and typically we will have a detailed description up 2 to 3 weeks prior to the salon. You will notice that next month's salon doesn't yet have a full description.

    In regards to why we titled the salon "HIV in the USA", the reason we did that was because we didn't feel we had the resources to talk about HIV on a global level. It wasn't meant to somehow not talk about HIV in SF. I'm not sure if that's what you meant by "elephant". Actually, since we are in SF, I'm sure folks will be mostly speaking in regards to the local scene. If you have info re HIV overseas or any other info that might be helpful, please share that with us at the salon.

    Thanks,

    Richard

    1 · December 23, 2013

  • Patrick

    Devon,

    I think the issues of HIV in the gay community may be different in some respects than HIV in other communities, for example, the intravenous drug user community. As for San Francisco, I suspect that the issues here may be different than the issues of somebody in Alabama or Mississippi -- but I do not know b/c I have never been to either of those states. So, different communities may have different experiences. Then again, maybe not. Do you think the issues are substantially the same for gay men in Mississippi and San Francisco? As for an elephant, I honestly do not know what you are referring to. Hopefully, we can create an atmosphere of honest dialogue and if there is an elephant you can help me see it -- I would appreciate that. I look forward to hearing what you have to say when we all meet up and perhaps you can help us understand what about the volunteers is creating issues, as you say "BUT you all running this group are scaring the fuck out of me."

    1 · December 22, 2013

    • Patrick

      Thanks for your comments and I look forward to listening and learning when we all meet. So, I appreciate your speaking up and raising important issues and

      1 · December 23, 2013

    • Patrick

      please speak up and out at the Salon -- we all have a great deal to learn. Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays and Peace,

      1 · December 23, 2013

  • Devon R.

    I'm going, BUT you all running this group are scaring the fuck out of me.
    First the fact I've asked publicly if there is going to be an HIV+ facilitator involved with this group and no answer has a merged, must mean no.
    Second to read some of the topic you are offering, "Is there a stigma from being postive?" and "a near normal lifespan" obviously not written by someone understanding HIV issues.
    Third, three weeks before the meeting, it took you guys this long to come up with an itinerary. You could had said you needed help with this.
    Fourth, you have to ask if there is discrimination issues.
    Because I'm not a man who would sincerly listen to a white person talk about what it is like being a black person, I need to ask again, this time for the sake of the community, is there going to be HIV+ facilitators?

    December 22, 2013

    • Devon R.

      I won't of asked if it didn't.

      December 22, 2013

    • A former member
      A former member

      Well, now you know. Does that alleviate any misgivings you might have?

      1 · December 23, 2013

  • Devon R.

    Sorry if it sounded like I insulted anyones fine work, that is not what that was about.
    I should had gone with what I orignally was going to say: "HIV in the US," not here in SF Gay community, hmmmm, is there something there with the elephant?

    December 22, 2013

  • Devon R.

    Is there any construction to this topic?
    Who is running this topic and meeting?

    November 1, 2013

    • Adam J. B.

      Yay, we managed to get the event description up before the holidays! Check out the various topics in the Meetup Description now.

      December 22, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    I'm a yes, but it's tentative dependent on what the actual topics are. If it's transmission related primarily, this is something I don't need. Thanks

    1 · December 18, 2013

    • Adam J. B.

      There will be a myriad of topics up for discussion. If you're not interested in the medical/transmission aspect, you can join the "Personal" or "Political/Social"­ groups.

      December 22, 2013

  • Joel

    Please ignore my message; I plan to attend. Right now, my thoughts are to have at least a few topics, and individuals can select which venue they prefer....
    1. Medical HIV.....transmission, PrEP, PEP (and how these 2 treatments could change attitudes about safety)
    2. Dating and HIV...do you ask? How do you ask? Safety concerns
    3. Living with HIV...what it does to relationships, how one copes.
    4. ???
    These are my initial thoughts...it's too early to publish the consensus of the planning committee. Of course, the direction that each discussion group takes is up to the participants.

    1 · December 7, 2013

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