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Re: [permaculture-119] Re: Black raspberry - Propagation

From: Alisa V.
Sent on: Tuesday, September 30, 2014, 1:34 PM
Here's the raspberry guide from Oregon....

I went to Furney's Nursery because it was recommended as having a wide variety & been in business awhile, but I'm sure you could goggle if you want an organic nursery.



On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 1:26 PM, lees villarreal <[address removed]> wrote:
Both the extension service in wa    http://gardening.wsu.edu/trees-and-shrubs/

and the extension service in Oregon  http://extension.oregonstate.edu/gardening/

 have great information on everything you'd want to know about propagation and plant varieties that grow here & taste good.

When I planted a variety blueberries & rasberries here, I mainly went off of a chart on when they produce, so I'd always have fruit throughout the season.

alisa

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Heidy <[address removed]> wrote:
Hi Keith,
I'm tagging along for the ride here, but I'd also really like to learn more about these raspberries. Would it be possible for you to recommend any places where I can get more native raspberries? I aim on making my landscaping as edible as possible, with an emphasis on native plants, and I often feel overwhelmed by the options.

Heidy

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Keith Mastenbrook <[address removed]> wrote:
Hi Jeremiah,

By "Black Raspberry" are you referring to the Blackcap Raspberry?  This is were botanical names have more clarity, but I think you might be thinking of Rubus leucodermis, our native Blackcap Raspberry.  It is easy to grow, if not a bit thorny, and even easier to propagate.  This season is the best time to increase them, because the Blackcap growth habit is more like a Blackberry, rather than a Raspberry.  Blackberries have the habit of sending their canes down to the soil in the fall, then the tips root, thus increasing the patch.  You can let them develop a good root growth, then clip the cane and transplant to a new location.  If you know of a wild patch, this would be a good time to check them for increases.  Follow the canes to the tips and see if they have rooted.  This is also a good time of year to monitor Blackberries to keep them from spreading into your garden if you have an invasive patch nearby (or in your garden already).

One thing about Blackcaps that I have observed is that they are not all equally delicious.  I have two distinct varieties in my garden, one is great and the other should be removed.  Cultivating the best selections should be our objective, in my opinion.

I have also observed that Blackcaps can be a difficult plant in tight spaces and a bit unruly.  They don't respond well to pruning during the growing season and new canes should be allowed to grow uninterrupted.  Second-year fruiting canes can be removed after fruit is harvested, cut entirely to the ground like typical Raspberry cultivation.  I've also learned that their leaves are great goat food, just an after thought.

Green wishes!
Keith M



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