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Is philosophy about talking about belief-systems?

This discussion is intended as an introduction to philosophy and as a summary of it! Ambitious twin goals. The proposition is that philosophy is 1) making our belief systems more explicit to ourselves, and 2) engaging in constructive discussion with you about our belief systems. If you think there is more to it, come and put forward your point of view. If you are comfortable with this "simple view" of philosophy, come and make your belief-system (aka world-view) as explicit as you can and then listen to others reactions. Defend your belief system. Ask good questions about others world-views. or even, change your mind! Cam it really be this simple? Can we really boil out the essential ideas in our beliefs? Well, come and try.

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  • Prima

    Why?
    For centuries people convinced themselves that the earth was flat, without experience or proof.
    Scientists avoid convincing themselves of the certainity of something, without proof of its certainity.

    January 27, 2014

  • Joseph G

    Consider this:
    Do we still NEED to believe in something - if we are actually already living with it? Respectful...

    January 25, 2014

    • Prima

      There are certain concepts for which whether you believe in it or not, exists. Taking your example, Oxygen. Here, the concept [belief] is not required to be experienced. And there are concepts for which there are no experiences, so why would we need convincing for that concept?

      January 26, 2014

    • Rizwan

      Sure, using another concept say God, I do not experience God but you can create the concept of God noting that its defined as so and so. At face value we can disagree rationally, logically, intuitively, emotionally etc with God as a concept right? I'd argue that because I personally do not experience this 'God', thus its necessary that I need convincing by other means

      January 26, 2014

  • Rizwan

    With regards to our discussions regarding mass-consumption driven society and its roots. I would like to highlight a few notable works that will illuminate: Origins and progress of advertising 1) The Hidden Persuaders http://www.amazon.com/The-Hidden-Persuaders-Vance-Packard/dp/097884310X A Neo-Marxist critique of mass society 2) One-Dimensional Man http://www.amazon.com/One-Dimensional-Man-Ideology-Advanced-Industrial/dp/0807014176 and lastly, the BBC documentary series Century of Self by Adam Curtis on how Freudian ideas are assimilated to exploit human behaviour in society http://vimeo.com/61857758

    2 · December 15, 2013

  • Joe G.

    Today, Tim gave an account of his worldview, through the different themes / topics in philosophy. I really like how Tim started at an atomic level (what is the world made of ?), going into themes like philosophy of mind (eg consciousness ? mind-body dualism ?), concerns of knowledge, moving onto the individuals (why should we behave well ?), building onto the macro stuff (eg how should human societies be organized ?). Other than arranging philosophical themes by philosophers, chronology, this is an interesting new way of thinking about the different sections in philosophy, at least for myself it is. Thank you Tim for preparing all those questions, and giving ppl another way of looking at the different themes in philosophy !!

    December 15, 2013

    • Joe G.

      After today, it is probably clear that there are certain topics in philosophy that ppl feel more strongly about. It is probably worth mentioning that during our discussions, even though points can be put across strongly, i dont really feel its directed specifically at a person, but more towards the opinion that the person has. For example, its not really about -A- person who holds a particular belief, but rather why that person (or any person) would hold that particular belief. So, we often need to remind ourselves not to take "challenges" personally. Having said that, some feel that our beliefs make up who we are. Hence, it is not hard to see why that happens. And so, i think its nice when ppl can show restrain, and leave things at "lets agree to disagree", and move on.

      December 15, 2013

    • Joe G.

      Sometimes, i find things to be on auto-pilot, and coming to meetups is the equivalent of coming out of that cave, and hopefully getting to meet others who feel likewise - ppl who got a bit bored in their own little caves and wondered what ppl out there are thinking about these days. Thank you Tim for hosting / chairing. Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, see u ppl in 2014 :)

      2 · December 15, 2013

  • Samantha

    Am ill so was unable to attend. Hope there's a second one soon :)

    December 14, 2013

  • Charles

    It was an illuminating discussion which gave me much to think about. Would attend again. Thanks everyone

    December 14, 2013

  • Charles

    Looking forward to a good exchange of views!

    December 14, 2013

  • Joe G.

    even though im not a philo major, my current understanding is that philo as a discipline happen becos ppl probably wondered about the world they live in. when it first started, ppl didnt know much about natural sciences, nor about human behaviour. overtime, different ppl got interested in different areas of enquiries. these days, we know a lot more about the natural sciences and human behaviour. noting Tim's point on linking belief system / world view & philosophy, it makes me wonder if the different areas in philosophy is a reflection of the different ways ppl continue to make sense of the world they live in - whether the interest be in knowledge, ethics, governance, human behaviour, social class, environmental, etc. look forward to having a diverse group - a group that is as interested in trying to understand other's worldview, as they are in exploring their own worldview. see u ppl in 7 days. :)

    December 8, 2013

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