What we're about
Friendly cash (.25/.50 blinds) and tourney games hosted at a couple different sites (private home's basement/man cave) in the general SW PDX area.
Tigard location (Rob's Skybox Lounge) usually hosts on Sunday afternoons or Thursday Evenings (1-2 times per month). If you come to this one, be prepared for some killer home brew and BBQ lunch/Dinner of some sorts. Request is $5 contribution (first time players eat and drink free!) to offset these costs (abstaining/BYOB is certainly acceptable).
Hillsdale location (Jason's Hillsdale Pad) to host on either Friday or Saturday evenings, (1-2 times per month) depending on player demand. Also a decent chance of spotting a good old-fashioned home game (no hold em, has wild cards, drop games, etc) occasionally.
To help keep cash games friendly, we'll go with buy-in amounts @ $20 min/$40 max, with adding cash when low allowed.
Tournaments are always challenging - often when many show up a suggestion is made to go tourney,etc. To be fair to all people, the intent of the game will be posted with the specific event, so please respond according to the specific event. (IE, if you're a "tourney only" players, please do not expect to sign up for a cash game hoping to change the game to tourney.
Effectively immediately, all games hosted from this Meetup group will institute (but not limited to) the following policies/rules:
a. Are not allowed (in the interest of keeping the game closer to the intended .25/.50 stakes)
2. Action out-of-turn
a. All action, regardless of turn, is considered binding, including verbal bets
b. This is considered poor poker etiquette and players will be asked to refrain from doing so and in the case of multiple instances, may be asked to leave the game
3. Talking during the hand
a. Discussions, about the hand in progress, regardless of whether in or out of the hand, is forbidden
b. The exclusion to this rule is during heads-up play, the players in the hand may say whatever they choose
The general principle here is to try to preserve as much of the intended board as possible. However, if action has occurred based on the wrong board cards, the plays must stand
a. The dealer burns and turns card(s) before the previous rounds betting is complete:
i. Premature flop: Complete action, leave existing burn, flop cards get shuffled back into deck, cut, deal new flop without burning. Continue as normal
ii. Premature turn: Complete action, leave existing burns (2), burn and turn new card (what would have been river) in place of existing turn. Continue action. Old turn card gets shuffled back into deck, cut, deal river without burning
iii. Premature river: Complete action, leave existing burns (3), river card gets shuffled back into deck, cut, deal new river without burning
b. The dealer fails to burn before turning and the error is spotted before action is taken:
i. Premature flop: If it is possible to know which card should have been the burn, use that as the burn card, and complete the flop with the next card. If it is not possible to know which card should have been the burn, scramble the flop cards and choose one to be the first burn card, complete the flop with the next card. Continue as normal
ii. Premature turn: Use the turn card as the second burn card, deal new turn, continue as normal
iii. Premature river: Use the river card as the third burn card, deal new river, continue as normal
c. The dealer fails to burn before turning and the error is spotted after action is taken:
i. Premature flop: Complete flop action. Burn twice (#1, #2). Deal turn card. Continue as normal
ii. Premature turn: Complete turn action. Burn twice (#2, #3). Deal river card
iii. Premature river: Complete river action with existing river card. The exception is if all players were all-in before the river, in which case you would correct the error (i.e. use the river card as the third burn card, and deal the proper river)
d. The dealer burns two or more cards. Again the error is noticed either before or after action has occurred.
i. Two burns before flop: If it is possible to know which cards should have been the proper burns, use the second burn as a flop card, use the flop card that should have been a burn card as the second burn card, continue action, deal turn card without burning, continue as normal. If it is not possible to know which cards were the proper burns, take the second burn card and use for the flop, scramble the flop and draw one card to use as the second burn card. Continue action, and then deal turn card without burning, continue as normal.
ii. Two burns before turn: Use the burn card that should have been the turn card as the turn card, use the old turn card as the third burn card. Continue action, deal river card without burning.
iii. Two burns before river: Use the burn card that should have been the river card as the river card, old river card is not used. Continue action.
These rules are actually all common sense (and taken from online resources), but there is not any expectation that everyone dealing need to remember all of them (heck, we’ll probably need to look them up ourselves haha) , just please ask for the house to help resolve any deal issue if applicable (likewise the house retains the right to correct any errant remediation taken).