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Utah Canyoneering II!

  • Oct 17, 2013 · 5:30 PM
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Utah is full of astonishingly beautiful and mysterious technical canyons. Hidden within these canyons are sparkling swimming pools, soaring walls, exciting rappels, enchanting chambers, spooky slots, fun potholes, and the most beautiful stone on earth. So join us for a technical canyoneering trip to explore these amazing wild treasures. If you are new to canyoneering, check out these websites for more info:

http://canyoneeringusa.com/utah/index.htm

http://climb-utah.com/

http://www.math.utah.edu/~sfolias/

We will decide which canyons we are going to descend as we get closer to the trip, but I wanted to go ahead and give everyone a heads-up on the dates for our canyoneering trips.

The canyons we will explore will be wet canyons with lots of big fun swimming pools! So you will need a wetsuit. A minimum of 3 mm on the torso, 4-6 mm is much better, and get a full wetsuit not a shorty.

We will leave Thursday night after work and drive to Utah. Fri, Sat, and Sun morning we will explore beautiful canyons. We will drive home Sunday afternoon. The trip will either be car-camping or backpacking and we will camp in a remote place surrounded by wild vistas and a huge vault of stars overhead.

Lets go rappel and swim through the most beautiful stone on earth!

Rom

 

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It's time to start getting prepared for the second canyoneering trip. Here are the trip details.

We have decided to do some new canyons in the Ticaboo Mesa area. We have done Hard Day Harvey, Good Day Jim, Upper Ticaboo Canyon, Paradiso, and Inferno.  We will pick three canyons that we have not done in Ticaboo from the following website:

http://www.bluugnome.com/canyoneer_tripreport_list_ticaboo-mesas_uth.aspx

We generally choose canyons that are long, beautiful, challenging, and adventurous.  You are more than welcome to post your canyon votes and then we can decide on the three best canyons together.  

Canyon Beta:

http://www.bluugnome.com/canyoneer_tripreport_list_ticaboo-mesas_uth.aspx

The "Technical Slot Canyon Guide to the Colorado Plateau", 2nd Edition by Michael Kelsey has beta on these canyons too. You can get that book at Neptune's or REI.

Itinerary:

Thursday night, October 17th: Drive to the Ticaboo Mesa area and camp

Friday: Euphrates or Purgatory, I am leaning towards Euphrates

Saturday: Double Deuce

Sunday: Woody Canyon or Pothoez, I am leaning towards Woody so that I can show Anita this superfun watery canyon.  Woody is in a different area on the drive back home.  

http://files.meetup.com/1640198/woody-north-wash.pdf

Carpooling:

If you are kind enough to drive then post to the group that you are looking for riders. If you need a ride then post that to the group.

The roads in the Ticaboo Mesa area generally require a high clearance vehicle.  A Subaru type car normally works fine.  So you don't really need very high clearance but a little more than a passenger car will help.  I must say however that every time we have gone to Ticaboo Mesa someone has driven their passenger car and made it to all the trailheads.  But I don't think that is really a great idea and I still recommend a higher clearance vehicle.   

Directions to the Campsite:

We are going to camp just past the Hard Day Harvey trailhead. Below is beta on how to get to the Hard Day Harvey trailhead.  Once you get to the Hard Day Harvey trailhead then keep driving for about[masked] yards further where the road starts turning to the left.  On the right side of the road there should be a large flat camping area with a spectacular view overlooking canyons dropping down to Lake Powell.  There is also a lower flat bench just below where there are additional tent sites.  Camp here and meet us in the morning.   

http://www.bluugnome.com/cyn_route/ticaboo_hard-day-harvey/ticaboo_hard-day-harvey.aspx

http://files.meetup.com/1640198/harddayharvey-powell.pdf

http://files.meetup.com/1640198/Hard%20Day%20HArvey.pdf


Meet:

Your carpool can caravan down with us Thursday night, or just arrive at the campsite whenever you want.

We will all meet at the campsite on Friday morning at 7:00 AM. Make sure you are all geared up and completely ready to go at 7:00 AM! If you are not ready to go you will be left behind.  We will split everyone into rope teams and give everybody some group gear to carry. So make sure to have extra space in your pack to carry group gear (mostly ropes, webbing, pothole escape gear, anchor gear, ...)


Ridiculous Group Size:

We are going to have to play some tricks and have super team work to get a group of this ridiculous size through these canyons before dark.  Most other canyoneers think I am completely insane for taking groups of this absurd size through canyons, but I have learned a variety of techniques to kind-of make it work.  First, we are going to split everybody into separate rope teams.  Each team will have their own ropes and then can finish a rappel, pull their rope, and move on. This moves people more rapidly through the canyon.  We will probably have three rope teams and spread the canyoneering veterans throughout them to lead them.  Second, at every rappel we should make parallel meat/human anchored rappels.  That way we can have multiple people rappeling simultaneously.  This can really speed things up.  Also, be sure that you are ready to go at our early morning start times.  We will be getting up super-early for Double Deuce on Saturday.  Leaving early is our only shot to finish this canyon before dark.

Ropes:

Euphrates requires a 150 ft rope and Double Deuce requires a 200 ft rope.  I have one 188 ft rope.  The rest of my ropes are 133 ft or less.  We need at least two more 200 ft (60 meter) ropes to do these canyons safely.  You always bring an extra rope in case one gets cut or lost in the canyon.  So if you have a 200 ft (60 meter) rope then please bring it so that we can do these canyons.  The more ropes the better.  

Wetsuits:

You will need a wetsuit for this trip.  See below for wetsuit details.  

Car-camping:

We will car-camp for the entire trip. Since we are car-camping you can bring all of the gear that you need to be happy. The camping will be primitive with no facilities whatsoever, and far from any city, so be prepared with everything that you need.

Water:

There is no water at the campsite, so bring all of the water that you will need for the entire trip.

Going to the Bathroom:

Bring some toilet paper, a lighter, and some hand sanitizer to go to the bathroom. You will use the lighter to burn your toilet paper.

Athletic Ability:

Canyoneering requires you to be in very good physical condition and to be athletic. The approaches require walking long distances in backcountry terrain. Descending these canyons safely requires you to be athletic, with good coordination, strong, and tough. You don't need to be a rock climber because generally you will be going down, but there are many similarities between climbing and canyoneering. Just be prepared to be a warrior and to fight a tough battle!

Technical/Rappeling Experience:

We will do some rappels in these canyons so it would be nice if you had some experience rappelling. Rappelling is easy and anybody can do it. If you have never rappelled or have little experience, try to get out and practice a little bit before we go. It will help you and all of us to do these canyons safely. The canyoneering veterans on this trip will build all the rappel anchors and take care of all the technical issues in the canyons.

Wetsuits:

You need a full wetsuit with at least 3 mm on the torso and 2 mm on the arms/legs, 4-6 mm on the torso and 3-5 mm on the arms/legs is much better.

Pack Size:

Make sure to have some extra space in your pack to help carry group gear such as ropes, webbing, pull lines, pothole escape gear, ... We will be carrying a lot of gear to make sure that we can safely descend the canyons. We spread out the technical gear among everyone so that one or two people are not totally overloaded. The reason I am saying this is that sometimes people show up (especially newbies) with tiny packs and cannot help carry any group gear, which forces one or two people to have to carry everything. A pack size of at least 30-40 liters is appropriate.

Canyoneering Gear:

Here is the gear that you need to come on the canyoneering trip. Please make sure to have this gear because it will be crucial for your survival and the safety of the group.

MANDATORY

Rappelling gear:
climbing harness, belay device, 2 large locking biners, 2 normal biners, rappel glove
We might rappel sometimes on a single 8 mm rope, so it helps to have one of those new belay devices that has a tight toothed section for small ropes. Black Diamond and Petzl make them. However, you can always add more biners for friction if you don’t want to buy a new belay device, but it is better and safer to have a new one.

Rappel Glove:

Some people have asked about the rappel glove. You dont need to buy an expensive climbing glove. Just go to Home Depot and buy a cheap leather glove. Make sure it has some kind of a loop on it so you can attach it to a biner on your harness. Please make sure to have some kind of a glove for rappelling. Having a glove if something goes wrong on rappel can save your life.

Prusik slings:

Bring these just in case we need to go up something, a difficult rappel, or rescues. Prusik slings are a 10 foot length and 6 foot length of 6 mm climbing cord. We will show you how to make the slings. Also bring a 3.5 foot length of 6 mm climbing cord. This can be used as a rappel backup in case we cannot give you a firemans belay.

Webbing:

Everyone needs to bring two 15 foot lengths of 1 inch width webbing. One length of webbing will be used to lower your pack. The other can help with a handline or be used to build an anchor.

Drybag:

Get a big drybag that fits the inside of your daypack. You will put all of your gear in the drybag in the pack and it will keep everything dry when we have to swim a pool. You can get drybags for around $15 at REI or Neptunes.

Helmet:

Bring a rock climbing helmet or possibly even a bike helmet. You need some kind of a helmet to protect your head in case you fall.

Knee/Elbow Pads:

You must have knee pads and elbow pads. These pads are absolutely crucial for down-climbing the canyons. Just go to Sports Authority and get the cheap $5 foam pads. They work great. Cover them with duct tape so they will last longer.

Wetsuit:

You need a full wetsuit with at least 3 mm on the torso and 2 mm on the arms/legs, 4-6 mm on the torso and 3-5 mm on the arms/legs is much better.

HELPFUL

Pack Drain/Pack to Shred:

When you swim a pool or pothole some water will go inside your backpack and then it becomes heavy when you try to exit the pothole.  Adding drain holes to the bottom of your pack lets the pack drain very quickly.  You can get cheap metal grommets from Home Depot and easily add drain holes to your pack.  Without drain holes your pack will eventually drain but it might be heavy for a bit.

Canyoneering will shred your backpack.  Try to bring an old or cheap backpack for the canyons to destroy.  Canyoneeringusa.com does sell stronger backpacks specifically for canyoneering but they are expensive.  

Canyoneering Shoes:

Most people use some kind of a trail shoe. A shoe that has a Vibram sole or climbing rubber is best because it is more sticky on the rock. You can also use tennis shoes, but they tend to slip on the rock, and fall apart in the canyons. I use an "approach shoe". It has sticky climbing rubber but can also go hiking. Neptune sells the 5.10 Canyoneering Shoes. They are great and cost about $100. Also think about the shoe being in water and making moves on wet rock or with wet shoes.

Clothes to Shred:

Canyoneering eats your clothes. Make sure to go to a thrift store and buy some cheap clothes for the canyons to shred. The cheap clothes will also be worn over your wetsuit to protect the wetsuit.

Gloves:

Some people like to wear Atlas Thermal Fit Nitrile gloves for canyoneering and keeping your hands warm in cold water. You can get those at McGuckins or Home Depot for $5.

Socks:

Some people like to wear neoprene socks to keep their feet warm when swimming or wading in cold water.

Anchor Gear:
If you have any webbing, cord, rappel rings, and quick links please bring them to help with building rappel anchors. The more webbing and anchor gear that we have the safer we will be.

Ropes:

If you have any ropes, bring them. We can use multiple ropes to move people more quickly through the canyons. Old ropes and especially shorter sections of ropes are very useful and allow us to bring a rope that matches the longest rappel in the canyon.

GPS System:

If you have a GPS system, then please bring it to help with navigation. Backup GPS is extremely valuable in case mine goes down.


Okay, looking forward to our grand adventure in the desert!

Rom

 

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  • Cosima T

    Is there a way to download all the photos at once?

    October 23, 2013

  • Yannick

    It was awesome. So awesome that I want some more. Utah Canyoneering III has been posted. Same area, different canyons. Bring you Halloween costume!

    1 · October 24, 2013

  • Cosima T

    Thank you all for an amazing canyoneering experience and for welcoming the European gang into your camp!

    October 22, 2013

  • Kevin F

    Thanks Rom for organizing the trip and thanks to everyone for making the weekend a blast!

    October 22, 2013

  • Carson G.

    How Ryan Jones stays in wall sticking shape...

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151687988698062

    1 · October 21, 2013

  • phu

    Is anyone missing a pair of muddy boots? Left in the back of my truck. Looks like mens.

    October 21, 2013

    • A former member
      A former member

      thats probably mine...honestly, they're crap...do what you want with them! thks phu

      October 21, 2013

  • Matt

    Yet another amazing spectacular trip!

    1 · October 21, 2013

  • Carson G.

    I had such a great time, thank you all! I can't wait to do it again!

    1 · October 21, 2013

  • Rom M.

    Well we had a great time on the second canyoneering trip of the fall. Friday, we did Euphrates and it was a nice canyon with fun elevators and a difficult pothole escape. Saturday, was Double Deuce and it turned out to be a pretty canyon with fun butt slides and challenging upclimbs. Sunday was the classic Woody and it always delivers even when mostly dry with fun pothole escapes and a great Jacky Chan jumper. An awesome trip with fun interesting people!

    1 · October 21, 2013

  • Bonnie

    Thanks everyone for a wonderful weekend!

    1 · October 21, 2013

  • Ryan K.

    Great trip everyone, thanks!!!

    2 · October 21, 2013

  • Ryan J.

    This trip was amazing with solid leadership and skills.

    2 · October 21, 2013

  • Lauren

    If it's a primitive campsite, should we bring a groover for a group so large? I'm happy to supply one, but it won't accommodate the entire group.

    1 · October 16, 2013

    • Lauren

      Hey Anton, I'm actually leaving the groover behind this trip - cat holes sound just as functional. We typically take them on rafting trips to pack out all of our waste since oftentimes the campsites are small, and the sites get used often. It makes camping outside more like a hotel - full toilet with seat, usually with a beautiful view. :) The groover is a friend of mine's and he says they run about $600, so not a cheap option.

      October 17, 2013

    • Rom M.

      The groovers we have used in the past are incredibly cheap. You just bring a bucket or a box and put a toilet seat on the top, and put a trash bag in the bucket. Next to it you place some deodorizer for each person to throw in the bucket after going to the bathroom, some toilet paper, and hand sanitizer. The main issue with a groover is putting a trash bag full of waste in your car for some part of the drive back. It's just a little unsettling.

      October 17, 2013

  • Rom M.

    Phu, Yannick, Shirley, and Carson,

    When is the earliest that you can meet on Thursday? The earliest that Anita and I can meet is 4:30 pm. Lets plan on meeting at Wooly Mammoth at the JJ sign. We just have to determine the earliest time that we can meet.

    October 16, 2013

    • Yannick

      5PM it is!

      October 17, 2013

    • Carson G.

      See you there at 5!

      October 17, 2013

  • Tom

    I loaded all the BluuGnome waypoints for Double Deuce, Montezuma, Euphrates, and Pothoez. I have it scripted, so I can get others reasonably easy. I'll grab Woody for good measure, any other canyons that would be considered? IF we do have a big, big group, any thought about about splitting in two and doing two separate canyons. Fewer time spent waiting on obstacles, and less stress on any one rope? I have no strong preferences as far as which canyon I do.

    October 16, 2013

    • Rom M.

      Tom, thanks so much for loading all the waypoints. It really makes me feel better to know that someone else also has the GPS points in case my GPS breaks or something happens. These canyons are new to me too so GPS points really help. Anita and I will be inputting the GPS points on the drive out to Utah. As for splitting up into separate canyons, I don't know if that is a great idea. We only have a limited number of potshots and sandtraps, and this gear will be essential in descending the canyons. Plus, I always like keeping an eye on my ropes so that I know what is happening to them. We can do these canyons with a big group. We just have to have separate rope teams, parallel simultaneous rappels, and leave early. Multiple ropes at each rappel will reduce stress on each rope. It will be more fun if we stay together and we can do it if we are smart, clever, and have good teamwork. Brian will actually be taking a few people each day to do some different dry canyons.

      October 17, 2013

  • Tom

    I will trying to leave Wolly Mamooth at 11:30am on Thursday, if enough people are interested in leaving around that time. Kevin has expressed interest in filling one of the seats in my Jeep GC. There are two additional seat available. If you can leave anywhere close to this time, please let me know. Thanks.

    October 14, 2013

    • A former member
      A former member

      I'm excited. :)

      October 16, 2013

    • Tom

      very glad to hear it!

      October 16, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Hi, anyone have an old climbing harness I could borrow &/or a dry bag? My harness doesn't have adjustable leg straps and comes way too high when I do fun canyoneering stunts (it was a "one size" and is apparently a bit big for me). Thanks!

    October 13, 2013

    • A former member
      A former member

      Hey Natalie, dang! I would have gone for that if I had know. Just got one for $60. Sorry.

      October 16, 2013

    • A former member
      A former member

      Hi Russell, I am coming! Pls bring those two items if you would. I'll use the dry bag for sure and bring a garbage bag to line it with. I'll bring my harness and perhaps you can help me figure out which is best. See you soon!

      October 16, 2013

  • Mike S.

    Hey, so based on my current schedule I wasn't going to be able to make it Thursday, but instead plan to head up myself Friday morning, then meet in camp and do Double-Deuce Saturday.

    October 16, 2013

  • Carson G.

    I'm not sure if there are open seats left in any vehicles leaving around 5 on Thursday at this point. If there are I am interested.

    I can drive if necessary, but can really only fit one other person and currently don't have AC.

    My truck is high clearance though, and has a shell so wet gear would not be an issue.

    October 15, 2013

    • Rom M.

      Hey Carson, if you cannot find a ride or a rider then we will have you caravan with Phu's truck. We will put two people in your truck and four in Phu's. Since you have a shell we could put most of the gear in your truck-bed and the rest in Phu's. Also, since we are sharing cargo and people, we could split the gas cost of the two trucks by 6 which would be more affordable.

      October 16, 2013

    • Carson G.

      Ok, thanks Rom.

      October 16, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    anyone have an extra wetsuit? I'm willing to pay to rent it! 6' male...I'd rather not buy if I can avoid!

    October 16, 2013

    • Rom M.

      Steve, in my opinion every person on planet Earth should own a wetsuit. :) We use them all the time: Utah canyoneering in the spring and fall, mountain canyoning in the summer, surfing when you go to the ocean, scuba diving/snorkeling, windsurfing, and river tubing. Buying a wetsuit can open up a whole new world of activities for you.

      October 16, 2013

  • phu

    I can drive and have room for three others. Also, for Montezuma, I have the 300ft rope and would like to sell it back to the group. We could do like in heaps and have people who use it pay 10 or 15 $ towards it. Those who already paid, Rom, Julie, Bonnie and Peter would not have to pay again. Would that work for everyone?

    October 14, 2013

    • Lauren

      I'm in too! Thanks, Phu! I'm also bringing a 60 meter rope with me.

      October 15, 2013

    • Carson G.

      I'm in for paying towards the rope too Phu, thanks!

      October 15, 2013

  • Matt

    I can take up to 2 passengers in my Subaru, but as I live in Keystone, you will have to get at least that far somehow. Cars may be left at my place for those who wish to carpool with me.

    October 11, 2013

    • Lauren

      my email is [masked]

      October 15, 2013

    • Matt

      Hey Ryan, you are welcome to carpool with us. Go ahead and coordinate the Front Range to Keystone segment with Lauren.

      October 15, 2013

  • Peter

    I've been fighting a cold I picked up on the last trip, so been holding off on organising a ride to see if my conditions improves. It'l be a last minute decision as to whether I can make it & will have to see what the carpool situation is tomorrow night. At this stage it's not looking good. Will be a shame to miss the trip.

    October 15, 2013

  • Rom M.

    Okay I just posted many more details about the trip in the trip description above. Here are additional issues:

    Carpool:
    Phu, maybe Anita and I can ride with you. Yannick & Shirley, Phu's truck is pretty big so it is possible to fit 5 people. We could put one guy and two girls in the back, and Phu and another guy up front. The main problem with Phu's truck is that gear in the bed is exposed to rain, so we have to trash bag everything. The forecast calls for rain/snow in the mountains Thursday night. Another option is to rent an SUV. I just looked on carrentals.com and we can rent an SUV for $120 total for 4 days. It can fit 5 people and 6 bags. The only problem is that we would have to pick it up from near DIA, which is a pain. I just made a free reservation in case we need it.

    October 15, 2013

    • Shirley

      Adding trash bags to the gear list...

      October 15, 2013

    • phu

      Sounds good. I'll play around with seeing if I can get a tarp to secure to the racks without flying off

      October 15, 2013

  • Rom M.

    Phu's 300 ft Rope:
    It is possible that we could use Phu's 300 ft rope to do Montezuma. However, my vote is probably to save it for Heaps, which is an amazing top five canyon. We could damage it doing Montezuma and then we would not have any rope for doing Heaps in the future. But I understand that Phu would like to sell it to the group and it would allow us to do canyons with big raps. Montezuma could then be an option for the trip.

    October 15, 2013

    • Yannick

      Ropewise, I also have a 300ft rope but it has a sheeth damage at 236'. I know my rope will survive for a handful of canyoneers, but 28 folks is asking for trouble. If it is a clean rap, we can lower 30ft and then rap 230' on this particular rappel, then that would work...only the last person would have to rap through the damaged section. But at 10 minutes/pers, it would take 280min = 4.5+ hrs to clear that obstacle.

      October 15, 2013

  • Ryan J.

    So I can drive if more people need a ride, but if not is there still room in someone else's car that I can jump in? I have to work on thursday and can be back in golden ready to leave at 4pm

    October 15, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    I have an extra 2-person tent if someone needs one.

    October 13, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Hi, I'm looking for a ride from the Boulder area. Can leave anytime on Thursday. Anyone looking for company and help with gas?

    October 11, 2013

    • Lauren

      Hey Michelle, I had planned on driving, but my little Jetta likely will be horrible for those kind of roads, sorry!

      October 12, 2013

  • Matt

    I would like to throw my vote in for Montezuma on Friday if the rope can be acquired.

    October 11, 2013

  • Yannick

    I am setting up an informal 'canyoneering skills' workshop tomorrow afternoon in the Boulder area. If anyone is interested hit me up. I'll post it on Spectacular Adventures in the next few minutes.

    1 · October 11, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    I'm a first time canyoneerist (?), along with my brother, does anyone know a good place to rent the mandatory gear? or buy secondhand? Thanks!

    October 11, 2013

    • Carson G.

      I've heard Rom recommend thrift stores for wetsuits. Someone else mentioned renting a wetsuit for the last trip, but I haven’t looked into what businesses offer it. Personally I’d be worried about tearing a rental. If you go rental definitely get knee and elbow pads.

      I think it is worth getting your own harness, carabiners, and belay device. Those are the bulk of a basic setup for rock climbing too, and they aren’t really that expensive.

      Wilderness Exchange, Neptune, The Bent Gate, and REI are good local sources.

      Sports Authority had knee and elbow pads on sale last week, under $5/pair. The Sports Castle had a bunch left.

      October 11, 2013

  • Rom M.

    Okay I haven't had a lot of time to look at Ticaboo canyons but I will get after that on Monday. After a quick look at the options I agree that Double Deuce looks good. Since Double Deuce is long we should make that our Saturday canyon. I am thinking to do Woody canyon, which is in a different area on the way out, because it is a superfun water filled canyon and my girlfriend Anita has not done it yet. So we just need to pick a canyon for Friday. Montezuma looks good but we would need a 260 ft rope. Other options are Euphrates or Pothoez. Okay on Monday I will figure out a Friday canyon and choose a campsite location. We also need to start figuring out the carpool because the Ticaboo area requires high clearance vehicles.

    October 11, 2013

    • Shirley

      Yannick and I are looking for a ride from Wooly Mammoth or Boulder. We can also go in on a rental, if you want to do that again.

      October 11, 2013

  • Chris M.

    Is anyone else bringing doggies? I can only come if I could work it out to bring my pup, keep him in thw truck dueing canyoning or something? How long Will the outings be roughly?

    October 9, 2013

  • Cosima T

    Yeah Double Deuce looks fun, Montezuma too! I will be climbing in Indian Creek Sat-Wed. Can I meet up with you in Hanksville Thursday night, or at camp? (provided I can fix my car - hope it's just the spark plugs and not the fuel pump).

    October 9, 2013

  • Ryan K.

    Double Deuce Canyon looks fun!

    October 5, 2013

  • Rom M.

    Anton, I just posted more info about the Utah II trip. We are going to do some new canyons in Ticaboo Mesa. We will pick three new canyons from the Blue Gnome website. You can post your canyon votes and then we can all make a decision together.

    October 1, 2013

    • Anton S.

      Well, I looked at my options and it's not a good time for me to trade oncall shifts :( I could push for it, but it would be... pushing it. Darn. Thanks, Rom! It's the best time to be out there. Wonderful area, some of my favorite camping.

      October 2, 2013

  • Chris M.

    ?

    October 2, 2013

  • Anton S.

    So, are we headed to Ticaboo canyons? The Dante system? I am trying to decide if I should fight to trade shifts and free up this weekend.

    October 1, 2013

  • Chris M.

    so im really wanting to go on this, i might already be out in utah for some other stuff going on.. would it be possible to meet out there? Where is this trip going to be exactly?

    September 24, 2013

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