Run the best trail (IMHO) within 100 miles, as the new sun dapples thru the leaves. Out-and-back, total 13+ miles. But each runner runs his/her own pace, and turns at a given time, based on the fastest runners' expected arrival at the Scott's Gap turnaround. That way, we all get back around the same time. And getting DQ'd after is one of the best things about the Siltstone - love that Blizzard! Meet at the JMF Welcome Center.