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... On The Question Between Truth and Love

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Says Emerson: "I will not speak to the open question between Truth and Love.
I shall not presume to interfere in the old politics of the
skies; - "The cherubim know most; the seraphim love most." The gods
shall settle their own quarrels.

Oh, but philosophers are simply no good at shutting up!

Says Chretien: “The obstacles to speech dissipate only in speech, as lover’s quarrels are resolved only in love.”

Interesting proportions. So the east is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet?

Ah, but here comes Emerson again: "Truth is handsomer than the affectation of love. Your goodness must have some edge to it, else it is none!"

And so the battle starts again. The truth comes out! The room slightly darkens.

..or did it just radically brighten?

Welcome to the open question between truth and love. And it is a high time for CPM to have this discussion.

Love says to truth: you are rigid with such pretense and conceit - you walk yourself right off the stage of life!

Truth responds with a long speech, natural to its kind:
"Is it senseless for me to ask, but on what basis do you decide? I accuse you of whim and you could only respond: “I hope it is somewhat better than whim at last, but we cannot spend the day in explanation. Expect me not to show cause why I seek or why I exclude company.” (Emerson, Self-Reliance)

Does the heart have its reasons? Or is it the case that, unable to provide an account, the affections of love are at perpetual risk of sliding into hatred? Perpetually susceptible to the sway of base designs?

Does it invariably take us into the snares of tragedy? Or is love exactly that noble response that braves the meaningless torrent of the tragic stage?

What will do justice in this battle? What will legislate us to go on?

What about the love of wisdom? What about compassion? The suffering animal? The underdog?

As we'll see, these words are talked about in many ways. Let's see how well we can pick up on their principles and relation. Is there truly a battle? Are their domains so radically distinct? Or Same? Can we at least succeed in seeing them as complementary excellences?

Go ahead and post relevant quotes in the comments below.

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