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Tucson Atheists Message Board › Atheism in Movies

Atheism in Movies

Josh
jlaz
Rio Rico, AZ
Post #: 164
Seems to me this might be a decent ongoing discussion for a variety of films. We could perhaps tie it in to movie night, though I live too far away to have made a go of it.

There's a movie on my mind that doesn't precisely fit this category, or what I'd recommend. I'll make this initial post and then respond with that movie.
Josh
jlaz
Rio Rico, AZ
Post #: 165
I saw this movie recently, called "Arlen Faber" or "The Answer Man".

http://www.imdb.com/t...­

It's about a guy who writes a book called "Me And God" and gets very famous and so-on. He's supposed to be very "deep".

I hate it when others issue spoilers, and so I won't issue one.

I will say that my point isn't exactly that I liked this movie but that I hated it less than I thought I might. I like Lauren Graham and Jeff Daniels is ok in the right role. I'm pretty dense when it comes to movie direction. It took a slightly different turn than I thought it might, but others might find it predictable.

I was about to throw up when one character made some would-be profound comments about God, and did turn it off, but later on the movie gets a bit more-real.

Anyway, readers here in this group may find my comments a bit odd, because you might reasonably ask "why mention this movie?" I guess it was just on my mind because it's what I saw, and it dealt, however feebly, with some issues of God and group-belief, and I figured possibly nobody else might choose to raise this movie for any sort of discussion.

As I mentioned, I hated this somewhat less than I thought I might.

jl


A former member
Post #: 551
I haven't seen this movie, I have read up on it a bit. It seems to me that "The Golden Compass" would be a good children's movie and perhaps a substitute for some of the other more religious options. Based on the book "Northern Lights" the first novel in the "His Dark Materials" series written by Phillip Pullman, an atheist, it is supposed to ridicule religion to some degree and shows science and rationality in a favorable light. The movie stars Eva Green (James Bond: Casino Royale), Nicole Kidman, Daniel Craig (James Bond: Casino Royale) and Dakota Richards.

Also "The Invention of Lying", starring, written and directed by Ricky Gervais, an out-of-the-closet atheist, is supposed to be all about a man who starts a religion in a world were nobody had ever lied or even had any idea of what a lie is. It's billed as a romantic comedy, though I have seen some details on it that suggest the romance part is mostly secondary in the story.
Josh
jlaz
Rio Rico, AZ
Post #: 166
..."The Golden Compass" ... "The Invention of Lying",....


Never heard of these... will keep an eye out.

jl
A former member
Post #: 692
My personal fav. is "Dogma", which stars George Carlin as a Catholic Cardinal. Classic!

http://en.wikipedia.o...­
Steve K
2245639
Tucson, AZ
Post #: 43
I really liked 'The Golden Compass'. It's a shame that New Line abandoned plans to make the other two movies in the trilogy. I just saw an article that quoted Sam Elliot (who plays a balloon pilot in the movie) blaming the Catholic Church:

    Asked what happened to the series, Elliot said: "The Catholic Church happened to The Golden Compass, as far as I'm concerned. It did 'incredible' at the box office, taking $380 million. Incredible. It took $85 million in the States.

    "The Catholic Church ... lambasted them, and I think it scared New Line off.

Josh
jlaz
Rio Rico, AZ
Post #: 167
My personal fav. is "Dogma", which stars George Carlin as a Catholic Cardinal. Classic!

http://en.wikipedia.o...­

It was hard not to like Dogma "that much", but I think I succeeded. At the end of the day, it came down pretty firmly in the camp of "it's not theism that is bad or wrong, but being dogmatic and something-or-other".

I liked it ok... the cast and some of the twists and turns were impossible to resist... but at the end of the day, if I was looking for an atheist push, it wasn't quite there (at least as far as I could see... could be wrong... and how can anyone resist George Carlin as the local Cardinal or whatever he was).
A former member
Post #: 567
True Dave, the fishies were very uptight with "The Golden Compass". Instead of saying "well, atheists might want to take their kids to this movie", they said that it was horrible, that it was "anti-christian" and "anti-religion". They went out of their way to try to tell everyone to not see it. I got the impression that if they had their way it would have been illegal to show the movie. Pathetic of them really, they're showing their own insecurity.

I thought "Dogma" was a decent movie, but I also liked "Clerks". Though, I agree that it was a mile short of an atheist's movie. The message was very much along the lines that "faith" is okay, but people should reject the church doctrines. Sadly, I think the movie could have been better, but I've also seen worse.
Josh
jlaz
Rio Rico, AZ
Post #: 170
Just saw this movie on an airplane. Missed the start though.

All-in-all it seemed like one of the best atheist-themed movies I've ever seen, but I'd like to get some opinions on it:

>The Invention of Lying (2009)
http://www.imdb.com/t...­
Josh
jlaz
Rio Rico, AZ
Post #: 171
Just saw this movie on an airplane. Missed the start though.

All-in-all it seemed like one of the best atheist-themed movies I've ever seen, but I'd like to get some opinions on it:

>The Invention of Lying (2009)
http://www.imdb.com/t...­

The great thing is that I was on board a plane. I half-expected 13 Christians to stand up en masse and demand of the stewardess that the movie be stopped and some nice God-Fearing-themed movie be put on. Ever watched an a movie with some aspect of an atheism with a captive audience of people who weren't interested?

Good music too. One of the best Bob Dylan songs and an Elvis Costello version (I think) of a Cat Stevens song.
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