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The Cost of Religious Faith

Religious faith seemingly serves many people well, but it can also come with a “cost”. Join us as we discuss the ways in which religious faith benefits those who have it (and, perhaps, the greater society of which it is a part) and as we discuss the “cost” of religious faith to those whose faith may differ from those around them as well as the “cost” to those who do not share that faith.

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  • jeff s.

    So much harder to objectively discuss this topic. The nature of the beast because it's so personal and an identity most of us have so much invested in.

    September 16, 2014

  • jeff s.

    So much harder to objectively discuss this topic. The nature of the beast because it's so personal and an identity most of us have so much invested in.

    1 · September 16, 2014

  • A former member
    A former member

    Sorry, had a few things that took a lot longer than expected.

    September 15, 2014

  • Gned the G.

    Unfortunately it looks like we suddenly have a schedule conflict. Y'all have fun.

    September 13, 2014

  • Joanne

    The must nots and shoulds are a definition of religious dogma. Hope you enjoy the discussion, sorry I can't be there.

    September 11, 2014

  • Joanne

    Very true…any ideology can be subverted to support nefarious or beneficial policy and / or activity. The scientific understandings that we have today may change tomorrow with new data. Most religious dogma is a bit less flexible in my opinion. Either discipline, if one can categorize them as such, can influence perceptions. The thing in and of itself (science / religion) is without inherent merit unless and until we individually give credence to it. The one begs to be disproved the other to be believed. Can I say relative vs. universal truth? Is there such a thing?

    September 11, 2014

    • Gned the G.

      Without addressing religious/spiritual matters per se, as somewhat of an ethical philosopher I've developed an interesting model with a very tiny core of absolutes (MUST NOTs), and everything else (SHOULDs) is relative and varies by culture, religion, etc. Everything's fine except when any particular religion or whoever doesn't understand the difference and things their idea are all universal and Musts and thus imposes them upon others. I think that if everyone adopted my model, at least in terms of dealing with other people outside their own social circles, church, etc., then we'd have world peace, and without having to agree to anyone's particular religious views. No more holy wars.

      1 · September 11, 2014

  • Joanne

    Just saw a good presentation by Dawkins and his take from the early nineties….secular humanism…science, rational thought, coming into the 21st. century. There is no science vs. religion per se…religion "was" a transitional cultural construct that has outlived it's relevancy in our global community linked electronically. Conformity limits personal freedom and rational decision making..this is, in my opinion, a high price to pay for belief in an illusional construct. Certainly a human structure precisely instituted to control personal freedom and as such has cost us dearly as a species. Remove religion today and not much would change. What do you think? Would our lives, wars, hate mongering change? Most world religions suppress women that aspect alone is too high a price to pay. What do the ladies out there think about the second class status of women in religious hierarchies?

    September 10, 2014

    • DanS

      What Dawkins and his bretheren fail to acknowledge is that Science too, as we understand it today at least, is a transitional cultural construct. I am no theist, but I always remember that the atheist 20th century used science and technology to kill more people than all prior religious conflicts combined.

      September 11, 2014

  • A former member
    A former member

    What about the "cost" to those of the religious faith themselves? Like people who cut their children out of their lives when those children don't conform to what their faith says they "should" be.

    September 10, 2014

  • Joanne

    The issues associated with Religious Faith have to do with context and content. For most who actively practice a faith, it provides context for their moral and ethical conduct…the content of the teachings may appeal for various reasons and in some instances, it is my opinion, that the control exerted by "belonging" is comforting at many levels. Many individuals weave their belief "system" into their lives and family activities, social integration and friendships. Family culture may be built around a particular Religious dogma… children will be "taught" these concepts. This pre-programming is a fail safe for generational continuation in many fundamentalist Religions. I would like to ask if there has ever been a study based upon the personality types that gravitate to a particular Religious Philosophy? If so, has any one noticed that from generation to generation the attendance and support of a particular Religion changes within a family? Why is that? Joanne

    August 26, 2014

    • A former member
      A former member

      I'm pretty sure I remember coming across mention of some such study or another, but it was years ago and I don't remember specifics anymore. Follow-up studies have probably been done since then anyway.

      September 10, 2014

  • Gned the G.

    Sounds interesting, we might be able to make it to this one

    August 26, 2014

  • James B.

    I've got a previous engagement that night.

    August 26, 2014

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