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Growing Pains: Experiments with Child themes and why I stopped using them.

MAIN PRESENTATION

WordPress has supported Child Themes for years. There are tons of articles on how to use child themes... even the WordPress codex states "child themes are the recommended way of making modifications to a theme". At this very meetup, we've had Daisy Olsen explain Parent/Child (and why you should use them)... now it's time to hear from the other side.

At this month's meetup Allan Cole will talk about his experiences of using Parent/Child themes, and why he ultimately stopped using them.

OPENING PRESENTATION: Accessibility and Websites.

Tim Berners-Lee, the inventor of the world wide web, said: "The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect." The internet is definitely one of the best things that happened to people with disabilities. However, there are still many websites that are not accessible to those visitors because they are not designed or coded properly to be used effectively even with assistive technologies. This presentation will cover the basics of accessibility and explain why it benefits everyone, regardless of disabilities, and even website owners.

About the Speakers:

Allan Cole is a self-employed front-end web designer and developer based in Brooklyn, NY. He specializes in building custom WordPress solutions for a wide variety of clients in the entertainment, music and fashion industries. On top of that, he also designs, develops and distributes many popular themes for WordPress including AutoFocus and Basic Maths.

Svetlana Kouznetsova (Sveta) is a NYC-based web professional with a BFA in Graphic Design, an MS in Internet Technology, and over a decade of project experience with national/international organizations and non-profit/educational institutions. Her main interests are user experience, accessibility, front-end design/coding based on the latest web standards.

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  • Elizabeth W.

    Many thanks Allan for your insightful presentation. I am hand coder myself and :) artist and was trying to fit in with the framework mindset.
    But when I looked at the code I was concerned about its bulk. It did not seem practical to me to then add more code via a child theme.
    Your experience is tremendously helpful and validates my observations. Now I can go merrily along and become more familiar with PHP. As we build to any viewport it is important to keep our code light and mendable.
    Thank you Steve for uploading this video, I couldn’t find this information anywhere else!!!

    November 5, 2012

  • Joly M.

    Videos of these presentations are now posted at http://wpnyc.org/video/ I have made the effort to clean up YouTube's auto-captioning of Sveta's presentation - but, for some reason - the CC option doesn't show up on the embedded videos - so to see the captions you'll have to click thru to YouTube.

    More generally speaking, and bearing in mind the content of Sveta's presentation I'd like to start a policy of having all of the WPNYC videos properly captioned - at least going forward. I can tell you it is a laborious process, even given the basic auto-captions to work from. Thus I'd like to spread the load by recruiting a number of volunteers that could do about 10 minutes each. . If you are willing please contact me or Steve. Please put "WPNYC Video Captioning" in the title.

    November 5, 2012

    • Elizabeth W.

      Good Morning Joly,

      November 5, 2012

    • Elizabeth W.

      Oops pushed enter too soon,

      Can you provide some specifics? I have not added captions to a YouTube Video, but I agree it should be done.

      I watched a explanation on YouTube and it does look time consuming. AND preparation is most desirable, otherwise you have to listen and take notes.

      Since I was unfamiliar with captions I looked it up on Goggle and found the link below.

      It offers the opportunity to make your videos even more informative. That was a great find. Thanks :)


      http://net.tutsplus.c...­

      November 5, 2012

  • Patrick S.

    See you there. The Cary Citizen video from WordCamp ever get posted anywhere?

    October 8, 2012

    • Steve B.

      Not yet... We're still working on the videos.

      October 9, 2012

    • Joly M.

      Request noted.

      November 5, 2012

  • Rindy P.

    Another great meetup. Was really cool to hear Allan talk the other side of Child Themes, after having been a big promoter of them a few years ago.

    October 18, 2012

  • Mike S.

    The breadth and scope of information and interest on the topic made it a great event as well as the presenters!

    October 17, 2012

  • Shayne S.

    Great presentation by both speakers. I am relatively new to development and learned allot of interesting things to discuss with the rest of my team.

    October 17, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Great explanation of parent-child themes and some of the real world challenges with updating and maintaining them.

    October 17, 2012

  • Sonja L.

    Great topic and very insightful presentation! Can't wait to get my hands dirty with a starter theme!

    October 17, 2012

  • Darin R.

    Thank you Sveta, for the education and for bringing awareness to the rarely discussed and important topic of accessibility. I am currently building my own responsive starter theme, based on _s and ZURB's Foundation, and completely agree with Allan's ideas. Thanks for the insight!

    October 16, 2012

  • Serge T.

    Hi Everyone,

    My name is Serge Thompson and I am developing a mobile login plugin for wordpress sites. I am very exciting about sharing it and getting some feedback positive or negative. My goal is to build a secure service that allows wordpress developers to effortlessly increase users and keep them coming back without having to remember their login information.

    I look forward to speaking to all that are interested and hearing about how I can help.

    Sincerely,
    Serge

    October 12, 2012

    • Elizabeth W.

      Hi Serge,

      October 12, 2012

    • Elizabeth W.

      I am very interested in your plugin. Are you doing anything that involves gamification?

      October 12, 2012

  • Agatha

    Bummer, can't attend. Hope some of the info goes up on the site?

    October 10, 2012

  • Elizabeth W.

    :) I live in Edmonds, WA and will not be attending this one. I hope you make a video and add it to your fabulous collection. Thank you so much for sharing!!

    I am new to WP but after looking at the Child theme concept/practice thought hmmm maybe not.. It will be so interesting to hear Allan's info.

    1 · October 8, 2012

    • Elizabeth W.

      Steve,
      I belong to a large group of artists and share your info with them..all your efforts are sooooooooooo much appreciated. Yes, we have a nice WP meetup in Seattle, yours however, its truly unique. I am toying with the idea of setting up a WP meetup up here on the north end of the Sound as we have a lot of business folks up here who don't really want to drive to Seattle and your resources are terrific!! many thanks. The SEO videos are a big help. Maybe sometime we could do a meeting sync.
      Cheers,
      Liz
      PS.. I am really looking forward to a video on this upcoming talk.

      1 · October 9, 2012

    • Steve B.

      It's really nice to know we're making an impact outside of NYC!

      October 9, 2012

  • Dawn R.

    I would love to hear about alternatives, like what do you think about MojoMotor for small sites. I just heard about them and it seems great for my little community groups. What about truly modular themes that don't use child themes like the ones by Themify (I remember them presenting before but didn't understand the issue then)? What do they use if not child themes? Can the client get the updated child theme without involving the designer? Thanks.

    October 9, 2012

  • Darryle S.

    If I leave at 6 on the dot I still may be 15 mins late. I'm coming from Hoboken and will have to catch the Path and may have my fold up bike with me, if the weather is decent. Or else it'a a train/taxi from WTC.

    October 8, 2012

  • Michael A.

    I won't be able to make this one either, but happy there will be a video I can check out. I'm very interested in this topic as well.

    October 8, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Can't make this one. But very interested in the topic. Will there be a post after this meetup?

    October 8, 2012

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