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New Meetup: Arizona Earth Day 2009 - Announcing a new Meetup for The Phoenix Alternative Energy Meetup Group! What: Arizona Earth Day 2009 When: April 25,[masked]:00 AM Where: First United Methodist Church 5510 N. Central Ave ( Jon F. Apr 19, 2009 3:04 PM
Fwd: FUEL - FILM SHOWING EXTENDED - Sustainability Panel Discussions Friday 17th & Saturday 18th - The film I sent a message about has been extended at the Camelview (see below). Well worth seeing. Jon ---------- Forwarded Jon F. Apr 16, 2009 12:04 AM
FUEL starts this weekend in Scottsdale - The movie FUEL will be shown in Scottsdale starting on Friday, April 10th for a week. The movie received standing ovations at Sundance this year and also won the audience award. The movie will be shown on Friday & Saturday nights at 7pm, as well as user 2. Apr 9, 2009 4:26 PM
Obama support for electric vehicles - President Obama Announces $2.4 Billion for Electric Vehicles March 19, 2009 President Barack Obama today announced the launch of two major programs that will drive the development of the next generation of electric vehicles in the Un user 2. Mar 19, 2009 2:31 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Poll on Meeting Place - Hi Jon, Yes, the Home Expo is good. Joyce On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Jon Findley < [address removed] > wrote: Joyce M. Mar 19, 2009 1:36 PM
Poll on Meeting Place - Energy People: I have set up a poll on the Web site. Please go to the link below and vote!! http://alternativeenergy.meetu­p.com/35/polls/ Thanks. Jon Jon Jon F. Mar 18, 2009 10:01 PM
Possibly of interest to AEM members: Desert Biofuels Workshop - Hi all -- possibly of interest to AEM folks (particularly those who enjoyed Mark Edwards' algae presentation in Jan): the Desert Biofuels Initiative is holding our second annual Desert Biofuels Workshop on April 24th, from 9am to noon at ASU SkySong. user 8. Mar 15, 2009 5:34 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Alt Energy Meet-Up - New Location - Friends/Members, I am ordering a pizza delivery for the meeting.�� One Large Chees and I am bringing a salad from my garden.�� If anyone wants to pitch in I don't eat more than 2 pieces.�� I am more interested in the salad.�� MaryLou MaryLou B. Mar 14, 2009 12:19 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Alt Energy Meet-Up - New Location - user 6. Mar 14, 2009 12:01 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Alt Energy Meet-Up - New Location - Sorry. I won't be able to make it again this month, and I'll be out of town next month. The prospects of a regular meeting place sounds great. If this facility works out we should then be able to plan better for future John W. Mar 14, 2009 11:35 AM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Alt Energy Meet-Up - New Location - Preview not available Joyce M. Mar 14, 2009 11:28 AM
Alt Energy Meet-Up - New Location - Dear Members, In the interest of minimizing AEM business during meeting time, I would like to share some data about this new venue. We may have found our new home. But that is not for me to decide. It is important that you give us Jon F. Mar 13, 2009 10:30 AM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Bees - Alt Energy Group: Just got this article about bees. Interesting after our meeting on Saturday and the discussion about bees. . http://news.aol.com/article/ki­lle Jon F. Feb 16, 2009 12:20 AM
Alt Energy Meetup- Saturday programs - Thanks to everyone who came to the February meeting. The room worked pretty well but this is not a permanent arrangement and we are still looking for a new meeting place. If you have any suggestions, please contact one of the organizers. And th Jon F. Feb 14, 2009 8:57 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Meetup details changed: The Phoenix Alternative Energy February Meetup - Hi John, Thank you and I plan to attend. Joyce On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Jon Findley < [address removed] > wrote: Joyce M. Feb 12, 2009 10:33 AM
Meetup details changed: The Phoenix Alternative Energy February Meetup - I've updated this Meetup. For more details, see the full listing: http://alternativeenergy.meetu­p.com/35/calendar/9493782/ When: February 14,[masked]:30 PM Wh Jon F. Feb 11, 2009 10:22 AM
alt energy that is competitive with fossil fuel! - Preview not available user 8. Feb 5, 2009 9:51 AM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Mobile Alternative Fueling Station Locater Now Available - Preview not available user 2. Feb 4, 2009 9:52 PM
Mobile Alternative Fueling Station Locater Now Available - Preview not available user 2. Feb 4, 2009 3:42 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Electric Drag Racer (amazing electric racer) - I sent the clip because I felt here was one man who was actually DOING something, and showing others the possibilities of such alternate vehicles. I'm also betting that the load placed on those batteries for that al user 7. Feb 1, 2009 9:37 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Electric Drag Racer (amazing electric racer) - ��� user 6. Feb 1, 2009 4:06 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Electric Drag Racer (amazing electric racer) - Something to consider...the batteries in the trunk could be covered by glass as in the Prius Plug in, allowing for traditional trunk space. Just because the raceway has recharging available does not mean that the car is out of juice with a 1/4 mile MaryLou B. Feb 1, 2009 12:36 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Electric Drag Racer (amazing electric racer) - Thanks! I liked this...Joyce Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Lyle Tuttle < [address removed] > wrote: Joyce M. Jan 31, 2009 3:07 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Electric Drag Racer (amazing electric racer) - user 6. Jan 31, 2009 12:31 PM
Re: Electric Drag Racer (amazing electric racer) - Preview not available Paul S. Jan 31, 2009 11:26 AM
Electric Drag Racer (amazing electric racer) - Subject: Fwd: Electric Drag Racer This car is really impressive. Check out this video. user 7. Jan 30, 2009 9:22 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] January Forum on Solar Power in Arizona - Yes, I was already aware of this and intend to send it out to my list later today. Thanks Pete user 1. Jan 27, 2009 1:28 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] January Forum on Solar Power in Arizona - Dear Jon et al, &nb Pete Jan 27, 2009 1:17 PM
January Forum on Solar Power in Arizona - An outside event that should be very interesting; good panel and ... it's on the Light Rail!! Jon ------------------------------­-------- Arizona Advocacy Network's January Forum Jon F. Jan 27, 2009 12:23 PM
Symposium - Create a New Future - Sunday, January 18 - Awakening the Dreamer Changing the Dream Symposium What kind of future are we creating? And will it work for everyone? The Awakening the Dreamer, Changing the Dream Symposium is a profound inquiry into a bold vision: to bri Jon F. Jan 12, 2009 11:18 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Meetup details changed: The Phoenix Alternative Energy January Meetup Location - Sounds like Algae may turn out to be as flexible as corn, hopefully without the problems. user 1. Jan 8, 2009 6:47 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Meetup details changed: The Phoenix Alternative Energy January Meetup Location - Geoff S. Jan 8, 2009 5:24 PM
Meetup details changed: The Phoenix Alternative Energy January Meetup Location - I've updated this Meetup. For more details, see the full listing: http://alternativeenergy.meetu­p.com/35/calendar/9332961/ When: January 10,[masked]:30 PM Whe Jon F. Jan 8, 2009 5:21 PM
Fwd: Oregon state fleet starts using PHEVs - Preview not available Jon F. Jan 7, 2009 9:32 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Green Living 2009 with Greg Peterson - user 3. Jan 5, 2009 8:37 PM
RE: [alternativeenergy-35] Green Living 2009 with Greg Peterson - user 8. Jan 5, 2009 9:26 AM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Meetup details changed: The Phoenix Alternative Energy January Meetup - Jon, I would like to nominate the Sweet Tomatoes at Camelback and Central for our meeting. I have participated in meetings there before and the user 1. Jan 5, 2009 8:28 AM
Meetup details changed: The Phoenix Alternative Energy January Meetup - I've updated this Meetup. For more details, see the full listing: http://alternativeenergy.meetu­p.com/35/calendar/9332961/ When: January 10,[masked]:30 PM Whe Jon F. Jan 5, 2009 1:33 AM
Green Living 2009 with Greg Peterson - If you haven't heard Greg (or even if you have), this is worth doing. Jon ---------------------------- Time: Monday, January 5,[masked]:00 p.m. Location: Changing Hands Bookstore, Tempe GREG Jon F. Jan 5, 2009 1:18 AM
Want to fly? - Interesting......and if the new "capacitor-style" storage units prove out, could be a real changer..... http://www.popsci.com/military­-aviation-amp-space/article/20­08-12/silent-electric-plane Sorry about the Jan 10 meeting -- I have a conflict on user 7. Dec 27, 2008 10:09 AM
Something a little lighter - Robert A. Dec 23, 2008 2:51 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Goldwater Institute Press Release - Robert A. Dec 23, 2008 1:28 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Goldwater Institute Press Release - Bob: Some good points but I've got to say there is a point at which I say, "To h*** with California, the Midwest, the East Coast, etc." You say: " But after lookin Jon F. Dec 22, 2008 11:12 AM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Goldwater Institute Press Release - Preview not available Robert A. Dec 21, 2008 5:16 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Goldwater Institute Press Release - Preview not available Jon F. Dec 21, 2008 2:01 PM
I FOUND IT! - Goldwater Institute Press Release - Sorry for the second quick e-mail, but the data are below. Note that the average residential monthly renewable surcharge goes from $1.32 to $3.17, an increase of $1.85/month, not the $16.00/month you suggested to us, Lyle. My "ether" figure was close, b Jeff Dec 21, 2008 10:53 AM
(no subject) - David, thanks for your positive response. Lyle, I guess I didn't communicate my point very well. > Just how large would you want the message to be? I'd want the message to be large enough to include all pertinent data. If we're forwarding press re Jeff Dec 21, 2008 10:39 AM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Goldwater Institute Press Release - Robert A. Dec 21, 2008 9:49 AM
RE: [alternativeenergy-35] Goldwater Institute Press Release - So that is one vote for increasing everyone's cost for goods and service -- everyone pays the increase in the cost to make, transport, store and retail goods. The increased cost is like a tax, and covers everything and everybody w user 7. Dec 21, 2008 8:46 AM
RE: [alternativeenergy-35] Goldwater Institute Press Release - I'm new to the group, but I'll throw in my two cents. I feel a rise in cost of the traditional dirty energy sources and surcharges is the only way we'll ever make a meanin user 3. Dec 20, 2008 10:10 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Goldwater Institute Press Release - Just how large would you want the message to be? If it were all there, would you read it? Perhaps this is meant to be a "starting point" for interested persons..... Why not ask the author? We are big user 7. Dec 20, 2008 2:39 PM
Goldwater Institute Press Release - Energy Folks. Hmm... this (Read below.) sounds like a very concerned person. So concerned that the raw data are missing. I'm always skeptical when I get an emotional e-mail that provided only SOME of the data and a lot of interpretation. Where Jeff Dec 20, 2008 12:59 PM
Goldwater Institute: Corporation Commission piles on renewable energy surcharges - cember 18, 2008 Corporation Commission piles on renewable energy surcharges user 7. Dec 18, 2008 4:40 PM
RE: [alternativeenergy-35] PV modules - I didn't understand your response? I am not sure what my allies have to do with my trash? -----Original Message----- From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Geoff Sutton Sent: Wednesday, December user 8. Dec 17, 2008 3:47 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] PV modules - Randy not sure who you are but take your ally trash talk elsewhere. Geoff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Stevens" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 16,[masked]:09 PM Subject: R Geoff S. Dec 17, 2008 1:49 PM
RE: [alternativeenergy-35] PV modules - Greg, If you can't back up your statements -then your statements are all bullshit! I don't know about you but I've had enough bullshit! R -----Original Message----- From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] user 8. Dec 16, 2008 2:09 PM
PV modules - Randy wrote: I asked you to identify the modules that will fail within 7 years and the one that will last 100 years. I am still patiently waiting for your reply? ------------------------ He didn't say. - Greg user 2. Dec 16, 2008 12:05 PM
Chevy Volt - marketing scam - Permit me to elaborate upon what I said at the last meeting about EV mileage. At the headquarters for the Electric Automobile Association, which met monthly, people would share with us their experiences. They would give us rides. Too many people user 2. Dec 15, 2008 10:17 AM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] electric automobile update - misc articles - At 10:03 AM 12/15/2008, you wrote: >"I'd put my money on the sun and solar energy. What a source of >power! I hope we don't have to wait 'til oil and coal run out before >we tackle that." - Thomas Edison Speaking to Henry Ford and Harvey Firestone user 7. Dec 15, 2008 10:10 AM
electric automobile update - misc articles - Preview not available user 2. Dec 15, 2008 10:03 AM
US Army goes green - US ARMY GOES GREEN WASHINGTON, D.C. -- The United States Army might be fighting two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, but that has not stopped the military behemoth from opening a third front against global warming. The progress it has made in that c user 2. Dec 14, 2008 11:09 PM
RE: [alternativeenergy-35] The Clean Energy Project - Your Computer Could Save the World While Idling - Greg, On 11/19/08 you posted this: The ASU Photovoltaic Testing Laboratory has been "spun off." There's more to it than that, which isn't being shared, but it, the only lab in the United States accredited for PV Design Qualification and Type App user 8. Dec 14, 2008 2:57 PM
The Clean Energy Project - Your Computer Could Save the World While Idling - Preview not available user 2. Dec 14, 2008 12:47 PM
Meetup details changed: The Phoenix Alternative Energy December Meetup - I've updated this Meetup with details on the speakers. For more details, see the full listing: http://alternativeenergy.meetu­p.com/35/calendar/9122215/ When: December 1 Jon F. Dec 11, 2008 9:25 AM
Meetup details changed: The Phoenix Alternative Energy December Meetup - I've updated this Meetup. For more details, see the full listing: http://alternativeenergy.meetu­p.com/35/calendar/9122215/ When: December 13,[masked]:30 PM Wh Jon F. Dec 6, 2008 10:51 AM
Interesting Article - user 6. Dec 4, 2008 1:34 PM
Fwd: Fw: Paolo Soleri: Is Sustainable Urban Growth Possible? - Alt Energy People: Here is a great event: Sustainable Urban Growth in Arizona Sat., Dec. 6th at 2:30 pm Burton Barr Central Library Jon ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jon F. Dec 3, 2008 2:02 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] The Venus Project - It's been really busy this last week. Let's let the holiday pass and we can then schedule some Sunday night movies at my place. The first 10 RSVP'S would be the audience...a nice size group for discussion. Thanks, MaryLou B. Nov 26, 2008 11:12 PM
Re: emails sent in error from web site to list - Alternative Energy Meet-Up Members: I am sorry for this recent incident with our message (e-mail) list. It is an open list and any member is free to post messages to it. No one filters or approves these messages. As Organizer, I can take no respons Jon F. Nov 26, 2008 3:31 PM
Re: Fw: [alternativeenergy-35] re emails sent in error from web site to list - Preview not available Pete Nov 26, 2008 2:37 PM
Re: Fw: [alternativeenergy-35] Hydrogen on Demand..... - Preview not available user 6. Nov 26, 2008 1:58 PM
Re: Fw: [alternativeenergy-35] Hydrogen on Demand..... - Preview not available user 1. Nov 26, 2008 1:39 PM
Re: Fw: [alternativeenergy-35] Hydrogen on Demand..... - Message user 6. Nov 26, 2008 12:57 PM
RE: [alternativeenergy-35] hho from solar...... - .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 10pt; font-family:Verdana } To: [address removed] From: L.tuttl user 8. Nov 25, 2008 11:06 PM
Re: Fw: [alternativeenergy-35] Hydrogen on Demand..... - Dear Fellow Alternative Energy-Meet-up people, Pete Nov 25, 2008 11:02 PM
RE: Fw: [alternativeenergy-35] Hydrogen on Demand..... - Message user 4. Nov 25, 2008 6:08 PM
Re: Fw: [alternativeenergy-35] Hydrogen on Demand..... - WOW!! How did you ever get them to do that testing for you -- I tried and could not...<G> Interesting #'s......I went to a private company for my initial testing, and STILL waiting for car computer 're-do' to adjust user 7. Nov 25, 2008 4:16 PM
Re: Fw: [alternativeenergy-35] Hydrogen on Demand..... - Dear Lyle, &n Pete Nov 25, 2008 3:38 PM
Re: Fw: [alternativeenergy-35] Hydrogen on Demand..... - At 12:50 PM 11/25/2008, you wrote: Dear Steve and others, This looks like a very promising add-on device as reported in Scientific American user 7. Nov 25, 2008 2:53 PM
Re: Fw: [alternativeenergy-35] Hydrogen on Demand..... - At 12:26 PM 11/25/2008, you wrote: I just spotted something of interest in the December 2008 issue of Scientific American: (Page 42) user 7. Nov 25, 2008 2:17 PM
Re: Fw: [alternativeenergy-35] Hydrogen on Demand..... - Dear Steve and others, &nb Pete Nov 25, 2008 12:50 PM
Fw: [alternativeenergy-35] Hydrogen on Demand..... - user 6. Nov 25, 2008 12:26 PM
RE: [alternativeenergy-35] hho from solar...... - At 11:01 AM 11/25/2008, you wrote: Interesting idea. Run a simple calculation to find ROI on this fueling station: total of costs to build and equip, add in debt service if $$ borrowed user 7. Nov 25, 2008 11:13 AM
RE: [alternativeenergy-35] hho from solar...... - .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 10pt; font-family:Verdana } Interesting idea. Run a simple calculation to find ROI on this fueling s user 8. Nov 25, 2008 11:01 AM
hho from solar...... - More fueling stations: http://www.hydrogencarsnow.com­/blog2/index.php/hydrogen-dist­ribution/u-s-army-putting-up-h­ydrogen-fueling-stations/ user 7. Nov 25, 2008 6:14 AM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Bio Fuels in the Valley - Exactly what I was talking about, Steve!! There are great ways to produce biodiesel without using arable land or food crops. This is something I had seen before and what I had in mind in my post. It's compact, efficient, fast an Rebecca S. Nov 25, 2008 1:08 AM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] The Venus Project - Mary Lou, We get the Ed Begely JR Earth Cinema series of DVD's . I'd be glad to loan then to you so you could show them to your group. They cover a wide range of issues and are very good. Jim Stack user 2. Nov 24, 2008 10:38 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Bio Fuels in the Valley - Steve and others: Algae fuel for cars- Pete Nov 24, 2008 5:54 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Bio Fuels in the Valley - user 6. Nov 24, 2008 5:13 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] The Venus Project - Dear Mark, I have been thinking of restarting a movie group in my home. It sounds like these flicks would make for some interesting and fun discussion. I am in Tempe. If this is viable contact me on my personal email. MaryLou B. Nov 24, 2008 4:50 PM
The Venus Project - mark Nov 24, 2008 3:11 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Bio Fuels in the Valley - mark Nov 24, 2008 12:50 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Bio Fuels in the Valley - All well and good if all we're talking about is using throw away oils to produce biodiesel. Then, it is a spendid idea to reuse what would simply become trash. However, to use food crops or arable land to create fuel is both wrong and Rebecca S. Nov 24, 2008 6:33 AM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Bio Fuels in the Valley - Loren is correct. Biodiesel production is not the same as ethanol production. In fact I think they just built a biodiesel plant near Phoenix that recycles grease from fast food places into biodiesel. This is stuff that would usually go to landfills. Nick C. Nov 23, 2008 10:38 PM
RE: [alternativeenergy-35] Bio Fuels in the Valley - I can give you a ride in my solar powered golf cart. The only truly solar powered vehicle in daily use. Please visit my website to see my other innovative products from an alter. Energy sustainable startup. Thx, Randy Randy Stevens SOLARGREENCO user 8. Nov 23, 2008 6:01 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] interesting article - Thank you -- I will check them out.....I knew it was vintage 2007...... At 12:05 PM 11/23/2008, you wrote: >Omigosh! This old story from CNW Marketing is being >recirculated. It has been thoroughly discredited in every way - see >link below. Th user 7. Nov 23, 2008 5:28 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Bio Fuels in the Valley - I respectfully disagree. While it is true that corn ethanol is a terrible idea, I do not believe that painting the entire biofuels arena wit Loren R. Nov 23, 2008 1:35 PM
Re: [alternativeenergy-35] Bio Fuels in the Valley - Biofuels are not ecological nor sustainable. They use more energy to create than they generate and create more overall pollution than they resolve. I fully hope that any and all advocates of biofuels eventually see the light, as it were, Rebecca S. Nov 23, 2008 1:20 PM
RE: [alternativeenergy-35] Hydrogen on Demand..... - .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 10pt; font-family:Verdana } We have tested this device and others like it on a number of vehicles. In each vernon v. Nov 23, 2008 12:42 PM
[alternativeenergy-35] Bio Fuels in the Valley - Hello all I am a graduate student at ASU's School of Sustainability. I am trying to develop a research topic regarding the barriers that entrepreneurs face in developing alternative energy startup companies. My primary focus will be on biofuel Loren R. Nov 23, 2008 12:32 PM

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