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RE: [atheists-8] Christian Fundamentalism & The Current State of the Union

From: user 7.
Sent on: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 1:41 PM

Yeah, today tho, one wonders how much time humans have to fix stuff. Between weapons technologies, environmental degradation including implicit viral/bacteriological buggery with rampant theocracies present, and politicians more familiar w/ the insides of corporate pockets than history...

well i'm just glad i chose not to have kids

Quoting "C.J." <[address removed]>:

���Indeed, it's taken me alot of years to get it thru my head that democracy progresses in seemingly geologic time. Sheep being what they are, a bit 'slow', when rational thought seems so 'self evident' to me.���

Yes indeed���.

I think the forefather���s realized this too; John Adam���s for instance hated slavery but he knew the country wasn���t ready yet to change and there was only so much he could do in the time he had, realistically��� And they were brilliant to write in the declaration of Independence not that God provided us with our rights but rather what you said, that they are ���Self-Evident.���

i.e.

���We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal..��� While a bit hypocritical at the time, I think they knew eventually this would lead to rights for blacks and women.





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