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Re: [betaNYC] Great Event Sat. May 11th!

From: Vietnhi P.
Sent on: Friday, April 26, 2013 2:13 PM
Interesting. And I have no doubt that we will see more of the type of issues that Sebastian raised as government becomes more and more open. If more such issues are brought to the surface, it means that Code for America is an excellent engine for citizen involvement. We are willing to help. But we must raise questions when questions need to be raised. I'd say that those who want us to help with regulating of the Chinatown buses - they will have to present and make their case to us and state what state regulations they want the Chinatown bus companies to comply with and why these specific regulations are a good thing.

In general, we are far better off being at the King council than outside with the guys waving the pitchforks..


From: John <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Friday, April 26,[masked]:34 PM
Subject: Re: [betaNYC] Great Event Sat. May 11th!

Paul-bot detector now moving to "hard orange." ;)

On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Sebastian <[address removed]> wrote:
Some of the framing was a red flag for me: "how can we ensure [Chinatown[ buses are complying with the new permit legislation being implemented."  That implies that ensuring compliance with said regulation is a good thing.  Prima facie, I don't think it is--I suspect the regulation is a result of industry capture by other bus companies.

Deeper discussion of Chinatown buses in particular is probably off-topic, but for me this raises questions about the role of and limits to civic technology.  It seems like it often it can work to empower citizens and enable them to engage public servants more effectively.

But as the state becomes more technological, and "civic technology" gets adopted into the mainstream government agenda, I think it's worth questioning whether technology might exacerbate the problematic aspects of the state.  For example, ensuring compliance to regulation made under industry capture.

If we are now part of the Code for America NYC Brigade, I'm curious what Code for America's position on this is.


On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 10:03 AM, noel hidalgo <[address removed]> wrote:
Sebastian,

BetaNYC continues to be a citizen initiative… It is NOT a government platform. This event is program by NYU grad students who are looking at regulation and how to IMPROVE it.

It should be a good event if you want to rethink regulation.

N


On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Sebastian <[address removed]> wrote:
Does anybody else find it interesting that one of the first messages to this list, after it suddenly transforming from a citizen initiative to a government platform, is a meetup to discuss more effective *regulation and surveillance* through technology?
It seems to me like a change in politics.
On Apr 26,[masked]:42 AM, "Tina" <[address removed]> wrote:
Hey all, 

In case you having seen this, I wanted to let you know about a great event happening on Saturday, May 11th from 10:30am-5pm. The event - called theRethinkingRegulation Design Challenge - brings together policy experts, techies, and regulators to use technology to do regulation in a smarter way. 

There are three pressing problems you can work on at the challenge dealing with public safety and quality of life issues: 

  • Chinatown bus regulation in NYC -- how can we ensure buses are complying with the new permit legislation being implemented? 
  • Illegal apartment conversions in NYC -- how can we empower renters to avoid renting illegal conversions and provide others with the information they would need to make similar decisions? 
  • Food price gouging in Newark, NJ -- how can we help stop the practice of food purveyors raising prices around the 1st and the 15th of the month when food stamp benefits are released to recipients? 
A member of Mayor Cory Booker's staff from Newark will be on hand to advise teams about food price gouging, and to judge solutions. 

Other judges include: 
  • Sarah Kaufman, Research Associate at the NYU Rudin Center for Transportation;
  • Suchi Sanagavarapu, the Senior Project Manager at the New York City Department Of Transportation (DOT); and 
  • Beth Noveck, former White House Deputy Chief Technology Officer and founder and director of the White House Open Government Initiative [masked]). 

For more information on the event check out the site atRethinkingRegulation.com. And to register click here:http://www.eventbrite.com/org/3484643947 

Hope to see you all there! 


--
Tina Spaic
Vice President, Wagner Education Policy Studies Association 
NYU Robert F. Wagner Graduate School of Public Service
Master of Public Administration, Candidate 2013
[E] [address removed] 


Sent from my iPhone: please ignore any spelling & grammar mistakes!




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