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RE: [bostonatheists] How DOES? the order of creation demonstrate a model for male headship in the church? - Man oh man, I wouldn't last a day.... I'd probably get stoned or something for being an ornery outspoken woman... -----Original Message----- From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Zachary Bos Sen Angie R. Dec 7, 2010 10:17 AM
How DOES? the order of creation demonstrate a model for male headship in the church? - Preview not available Zachary B. Dec 7, 2010 9:14 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Poll: majority of Muslims want Islam in politics - I'd be willing to bet that almost all atheists want religon out of politics. And I am also willing to put money on that seeming very bad to pretty much everyone except atheists. This poll, Josiah Dec 6, 2010 3:51 PM
RE: [bostonatheists] Poll: majority of Muslims want Islam in politics - If this is true, I can't say I'm shocked. Even if the majority of Muslim Sarah T. Dec 6, 2010 1:54 PM
Poll: majority of Muslims want Islam in politics - http://www.latimes.com/news/na­tionworld/world/la-fg-1206-mus­lim-poll-20101206,0,252922.sto­ry Zachary B. Dec 6, 2010 10:01 AM
New Meetup: Disproof Atheism Society: Atheism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason - Announcing a new Meetup for The Boston Atheists Meetup Group! What : Disproof Atheism Society: Atheism and the Principle of Sufficient Reason When Zachary B. Dec 5, 2010 8:40 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Colbert/atheists and christmas - Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. He is hilarious! He said nothing that offended this atheist. Th Norm Dec 4, 2010 5:04 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Colbert/atheists and christmas - p { margin: 0; } ...because then we just become as bad as humorless religious people. ----- Original Message ----- From Robin U. Dec 4, 2010 9:39 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Colbert/atheists and christmas - p { margin: 0; } What she said. Mark Twain, atheist, did this brilliantly, too. ----- Original Message ----- Robin U. Dec 4, 2010 9:39 AM
RE: [bostonatheists] Atheist billboarders should have a more open mind? - Well yeah, you're right, I guess she was kinda.... But comparing a couple billboards to the barrage of religious stuff over the last 50 years, really? She described both as 'belligerent', I beg to differ. And she was characterizing atheists as attackin Angie R. Dec 1, 2010 1:16 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Atheist billboarders should have a more open mind? - I thought the author was pointing out the irony. I don't get the relevance of an open mind. Having an open mind doesn't mean you don't critique anything. Falling back on the "open mind" meme is a dialogue killer that discounts one side's opinions David M Dec 1, 2010 12:31 PM
Humanist holiday party at Harvard this week - http://www.facebook.com/event.­php?eid=132974410090029 Zachary B. Nov 30, 2010 4:11 PM
RE: [bostonatheists] Hitchens interviewed by Paxman - Such a remarkable man. Intelligent, articulate, thoughtful, funny. It makes me genuinely sad to think he is not long for this world, I hope he is able to live longer than expected. -----Original Message----- From: [address removed] [ma Angie R. Nov 30, 2010 1:54 PM
Re: RE: [bostonatheists] Atheist billboarders should have a more open mind? - The attitude of many Christians toward atheism is similar to their attitude toward homosexuality: they consider it a perversion, and it should be kept hidden. In the words of Soundgarden: say it but just keep it off my wave. In many c Will Nov 30, 2010 11:36 AM
RE: [bostonatheists] Atheist billboarders should have a more open mind? - Kind of ironic that the writer of the article accuses atheists of 'shoving your beliefs on other people'... Isn't that the M.O. of Christianity in this country?? -----Original Message----- From: [address removed] [mailto:bostonatheists Angie R. Nov 30, 2010 11:17 AM
RE: [bostonatheists] Colbert/atheists and christmas - I concur with Lisa, and would like to add that it's not just a matter of Anne C. Nov 30, 2010 10:36 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Colbert/atheists and christmas - We need to remember the fact that we all are pretty ridiculous and every group deserves to be satirized once in a while. ?We should never take ourselves too seriously at the risk of becoming dogmatic. On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 Michael C. Nov 30, 2010 10:35 AM
RE: [bostonatheists] Colbert/atheists and christmas - Nothing. I loved it! Perhaps I misunderstood the posting. Lisa Nov 30, 2010 10:31 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Colbert/atheists and christmas - I think it was a brilliant piece of satirical tongue-in-cheek?performance?de­bunking Religious beliefs. What's wrong with it? On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Lisa < Anirban Nov 30, 2010 10:28 AM
RE: [bostonatheists] Colbert/atheists and christmas - Now com'on you guys....I love you all, but if you take Stephen Colbert s Lisa Nov 30, 2010 10:20 AM
RE: [bostonatheists] Colbert/atheists and christmas - I do like Steven Colbert. And why would I not like his take on atheists? Raja Nov 30, 2010 9:57 AM
Atheist billboarders should have a more open mind? - http://www.salon.com/life/feat­ure/2010/11/29/atheist_war_on_­christmas Zachary B. Nov 30, 2010 9:52 AM
Hitchens interviewed by Paxman - http://blog.newhumanist.org.uk­/2010/11/hitchens-interviewed-­by-paxman.html Zachary B. Nov 30, 2010 9:33 AM
Colbert/atheists and christmas - If you like Stephen Colbert then you may then again may not like his take on atheists at Christmas in "The Unbearable likenessa of Supreme Being." (forwarded from Fayth in the Lowell group) http://www.colbertnation.com/t­he-colbert-report-videos/21373­ Zachary B. Nov 30, 2010 9:18 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] On boycotting the Salvation Army - I remember a few years back, several stores and/or malls would not allow the Salvation Army inside it's doors. -- This year, I've seen a few around Downtown Crossing, not inside any large stores, though. If a store has a 'Brick and Mort Jonas Nov 29, 2010 4:26 PM
Australian bishop: "The secularists pursuing this aim won't be successful." - http://www.smh.com.au/national­/faithless-are-coarse-uncaring­-and-without-purpose-says-card­inal-pell-20101128-18cg3.html Zachary B. Nov 29, 2010 3:57 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] On boycotting the Salvation Army - ----- "Zachary Bos" wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v­=JLF2AVZ94uA I don't support the SA because they waste some money on religious activities. This gives me more ammunition and now I'll start writing to stores that allow the Scott Nov 29, 2010 3:41 PM
On boycotting the Salvation Army - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v­=JLF2AVZ94uA Zachary B. Nov 29, 2010 12:34 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Friday Night's debate between Hitchens and Blair - Awsome! I was looking for that debate! Good looking out! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 28, 2010, at 9:07 AM, Julian < [address removed] > wrote: George C. Nov 28, 2010 1:22 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Friday Night's debate between Hitchens and Blair - Ref.: Is Religion a Force for Good in the World? Friday Night's debate between Hitchens and Blair ...As much as I dislike sending en masse emails I just couldn't help myself sharing this with you on a lazy Sunday morning: Yo Julian G. F. Nov 28, 2010 8:53 AM
RE: [bostonatheists] New Symphony of Science Music Video - Thank you for sending this link. The showcase of heros is inspirin Tamar Nov 27, 2010 7:23 PM
New Meetup: Book & Brew (Goddess of the Market: Ayn Rand and the American Right) - Announcing a new Meetup for The Boston Atheists Meetup Group! What : Book & Brew (Goddess of the Market: Ayn Rand and the American Right) When : Mo Evan Nov 24, 2010 6:27 PM
New Symphony of Science Music Video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v­=1PT90dAA49Q #avg_ls_inline_popup { position:absolute; z-in kyanite11 Nov 23, 2010 5:19 PM
RE: [bostonatheists] University of Maine op-ed deserves some attention - Preview not available Tamar Nov 23, 2010 2:10 PM
University of Maine op-ed deserves some attention - http://mainecampus.com/2010/11­/22/op-ed-true-colors-of-athei­sm-are-as-vibrant-as-those-of-­other-beliefs/ Zachary B. Nov 23, 2010 1:18 PM
FFRF News: A Message From Mike Newdow via FFRF - Preview not available Cap'n M. Nov 22, 2010 8:39 PM
New Meetup: Harvard Square Holiday Fair---and Lunch before - Announcing a new Meetup for The Boston Atheists Meetup Group! What : Harvard Square Holiday Fair---and Lunch before When : Saturday, December 4,[masked] Jess M Nov 22, 2010 6:05 PM
Atheist facts, all true, at Uncyclopedia - http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/­wiki/Atheist Zachary B. Nov 21, 2010 8:51 AM
New Meetup: Secular Charity Event---Frog Pond Skating! - Announcing a new Meetup for The Boston Atheists Meetup Group! What : Secular Charity Event---Frog Pond Skating! When : Sunday, December 12,[masked]:00 P Jess M Nov 19, 2010 7:51 PM
Annual dues drive - Dear Members: If you haven't paid your $1 dues fee yet this year, please do. We're going to be drawing from the group fund for some organizational purchases in coming weeks -- a banner, etc., paying for our year-long use of our website host Zachary B. Nov 19, 2010 5:04 PM
God-man versus Human-man - http://www.boingboing.net/2010­/11/17/god-man-vs-human-man.ht­ml Zachary B. Nov 17, 2010 11:49 AM
Hitchens to debate Dembski tomorrow... - ... and it will be webcast at http://www.pcawebcast.com/2010­debate. Zachary B. Nov 17, 2010 11:40 AM
Where did god go in Afghanistan? An Atheist writes. - Outstanding piece by Kathleen Duncan Johnson, American Atheists Vice President and Military Director for American Atheists: http://atwar.blogs.nytimes.com­/2010/11/16/where-did-god-go-i­n-afghanistan-an-atheist-write­s/. Zachary B. Nov 16, 2010 5:13 PM
Response on Constantine's Sword; and a reminder about the message boards - Dear Mirza: > I think we can consider the point made -- David, Katie, you, and I all agree that religion is A source of violence, along with other sourc Zachary B. Nov 15, 2010 8:29 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] New Meetup: Screening of Constantine's Sword at Wellesley - How could we ever know the answer to you first question there? There are too many confounding variables. Nevertheless, historically speaking, there are many examples of religious atrocities David M Nov 15, 2010 7:27 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] New Meetup: Screening of Constantine's Sword at Wellesley - user 1. Nov 15, 2010 7:12 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] New Meetup: Screening of Constantine's Sword at Wellesley - > As we can see in the case of marriage inequality, religions can keep around >bad things that are a lot harder to keep around without religion. Is that really true? Would people be more open minded without religion? ----- Original Message Mirza B. Nov 15, 2010 6:42 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] New Meetup: Screening of Constantine's Sword at Wellesley - > Religion, being an ideology, motivates populations to violence, just > as Marxism and Maoism did and do. But I don't think anyone has claimed > that the corollary is true: that if theism were eradicated tomorrow, > violence would decline. What would Mirza B. Nov 15, 2010 6:30 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] New Meetup: Screening of Constantine's Sword at Wellesley - > Mirza B. Nov 15, 2010 5:40 PM
Proposed atheist website needs volunteers - From various mailing lists: I stumbled across a project called Area 51 that allows groups of experts to get together and answer questions on a topic. Right now, 'Atheism' is being proposed. It needs commitment from a number of people willing to answ Zachary B. Nov 15, 2010 3:33 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] New Meetup: Screening of Constantine's Sword at Wellesley - Add to this the problem of the privileged position religion has that makes criticizing a religion in poor taste (unless it is Scientology). As we can see in the case of marriage inequality, religions can keep around bad things that are a lot harder to David M Nov 15, 2010 2:29 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] New Meetup: Screening of Constantine's Sword at Wellesley - > Religion, being an ideology, motivates populations to violence, just as Marxism and Maoism did and do. But I don't think anyone has claimed th Zachary B. Nov 15, 2010 2:10 PM
Jacoby Article Reply -- more than 200 words. - Preview not available Jonas Nov 15, 2010 2:03 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] New Meetup: Screening of Constantine's Sword at Wellesley - From Jon : > I don't know any atheists who believe religion causes > violence, or that the death of religion would mean world > peace. Many of us, however, agree with Steven Weinberg's > statement, "With or without religion, g Mirza B. Nov 15, 2010 1:36 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] New Meetup: Screening of Constantine's Sword at Wellesley - user 1. Nov 15, 2010 1:24 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] New Meetup: Screening of Constantine's Sword at Wellesley - "There are many things that motivate people to do good and bad things, and religion can do both. But many of us still find religion to be dangerous, because, by its nature, it is unreasonable, and hence can give license and even encouragement for peopl Zachary B. Nov 15, 2010 12:54 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] New Meetup: Screening of Constantine's Sword at Wellesley - Preview not available Jon Nov 15, 2010 12:50 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] New Meetup: Screening of Constantine's Sword at Wellesley - I think you'll find that many people in the group agree with your sentiment, Mirza, that atheism is pretty weak sauce. It doesn't make us better people; our shared atheism just means that we lack in common just one of the many, many mistaken beliefs pe Zachary B. Nov 15, 2010 12:39 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] New Meetup: Screening of Constantine's Sword at Wellesley - Mirza B. Nov 15, 2010 12:19 PM
New Meetup: Screening of Constantine's Sword at Wellesley - Announcing a new Meetup for The Boston Atheists Meetup Group! What : Screening of Constantine's Sword at Wellesley When : Wednesday, November 17, 2010 Zachary B. Nov 15, 2010 11:55 AM
Nice article on godlessness in Alabama - http://www.bustedhalo.com/feat­ures/godless-in-alabama Zachary B. Nov 15, 2010 11:42 AM
RE: [bostonatheists] Jacoby op-ed today: You need god to be good - Angie R. Nov 15, 2010 11:36 AM
Coming soon on A&E: child psychics = child abuse - Imagination is a great and essential quality to cultivate in children. A lack of support for imagining in childhood leads to intellectual atrophy and chronic uninterestingness. In view of the special value of imaginative thinking, I'm particularly piss Zachary B. Nov 15, 2010 11:19 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Jacoby op-ed today: You need god to be good - Preview not available Jonas Nov 14, 2010 1:39 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Jacoby op-ed today: You need god to be good - "In our culture, even the most passionate atheist cannot help having been influenced by the Judeo-Christian worldview that shaped Western civilization. [...] He can be confident of that only because he lives in a society so steeped in Judeo-Christian Lev Nov 14, 2010 12:15 PM
Welcome to our 800th member (and, dinner at Bertucci's) - Welcome to Nicole Yurchak, our 800th member! Although this isn't as notable a figure as our 666th member, it certainly is a milestone worth celebrating. In view of this auspicious watermark: Announcing a new Meetup for The Boston Atheists Meetu Zachary B. Nov 14, 2010 12:15 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Jacoby op-ed today: You need god to be good - Shorter Jacoby: Without an invisible bearded guy sitting in the clouds, I'd have killed at least 12 of you by now! -Brad On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Jon Myerov < Brad R. Nov 14, 2010 12:04 PM
Jacoby op-ed today: You need god to be good - Dear deluded atheists who think -- ha! -- that reason can produce decent behavior: An editorial today from Jeff Jacoby, in which ignorance and bigotry come together in support of the dangerous idea that morality depends on theistic belief: http://w Zachary B. Nov 14, 2010 11:19 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Sneaky, religiously-affiliated* pro-life ads on the MBTA - Preview not available Janna Nov 12, 2010 10:29 PM
Sneaky, religiously-affiliated* pro-life ads on the MBTA - Preview not available Zachary B. Nov 12, 2010 5:17 PM
NYT: Catholic Bishops: More Exorcists Needed - Welcome to the Middle Ages! http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin­e/2010/11/12/us/AP-US-REL-Cath­olic-Bishops-Exorcism.html?_r=­3&hp -- Mike Leibensperger --+-- ...mjl at alumni dot cmu dot edu... "Men never do evil so completely or cheer Cap'n M. Nov 12, 2010 1:41 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Hell yea Dalai Lama - The culture that the Dalai Lama and his theocracy-in-exile hope to resume in Tibet is among things feudal, superstitious, and erotophobic. Even so, it is to his credit as a human being that despite these features of his devotional and political life Zachary B. Nov 12, 2010 10:02 AM
Hell yea Dalai Lama - http://twitter.com/#!/DalaiLam­a/status/[masked] user 4. Nov 12, 2010 9:49 AM
Largest humanist/atheist ad campaign ever - http://considerhumanism.org/ What do you think of these ads? Leave comments in the message thread, at http://www.meetup.com/bostonat­heists/messages/boards/thread/­10024586. Zachary B. Nov 12, 2010 9:28 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] Don't worry, it couldn't happen here - Unless you have to take a breath, right when the 'Under God' part of the Pledge Of Allegiance rolls around. http://friendlyatheist.com/201­0/1 Jonas Nov 10, 2010 1:56 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Christmas Looking More Godless Than Ever - And don't forget the Naughy & Nice list courtesy of the Liberty Council. Car Color is to Henry Ford as Religious Liberty is to the Liberty Council. ? "you can have any c Jonas Nov 10, 2010 1:53 PM
Christmas Looking More Godless Than Ever - From the NYTimes, a run-down of ads sponsored by secular groups this holiday season. Link to http://gawker.com/5686420/chri­stmas-looking-more-godless-tha­n-ever, to avoid NYT reg-wall. Which reminds me to remind you: keep an eye out for an invitation Zachary B. Nov 10, 2010 1:16 PM
Don't worry, it couldn't happen here - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new­s/newstopics/religion/8120142/­Christian-woman-sentenced-to-d­eath-in-Pakistan-for-blasphemy­.html Zachary B. Nov 10, 2010 12:26 PM
Reporter seeking contacts for article on atheist parenting - Dear Folks: Jeff MacDonald, freelance journalist and correspondent for The Christian Science Monitor, is writing about how parents pass down meaning, values, faith in some cases, or a secular worldview in other cases, to kids without outsourcing suc Zachary B. Nov 8, 2010 4:12 PM
New Meetup: Disproof Atheism Society talk: "Evil and the Ontological Disproof of God" - Announcing a new Meetup for The Boston Atheists Meetup Group! What : Disproof Atheism Society talk: "Evil and the Ontological Disproof of God" W Zachary B. Nov 4, 2010 10:40 AM
article on Atheism and the Enlightenment: "In the name of godlessness" - From http://www.economist.com/node/­17358838, a review of A Wicked Company: The Forgotten Radicalism of the European Enlightenment. Zachary B. Nov 4, 2010 9:20 AM
Sorry about that last message... - Preview not available Zachary B. Nov 3, 2010 9:37 PM
Responding to your letter, about the November issue of Awake! - Preview not available Zachary B. Nov 3, 2010 8:36 PM
Lecture on history of Indian secular movement at Wellesley College - user 1. Nov 3, 2010 12:18 PM
Gender and the New Atheism - Liberal, geeky, nerdy, scientific, perverted atheist feminist Jen McCreight tears apart an article in Ms magazine that says there are no female atheists: http://www.blaghag.com/2010/11­/does-media-really-care-where-­atheist.html Zachary B. Nov 2, 2010 10:33 AM
A frosh agnostic makes the usual mistakes - ... in his column for the Cambridge University (!) student newspaper, at http://www.varsity.co.uk/featu­res/2715. Zachary B. Nov 1, 2010 4:17 PM
Marian Call is playing at Tommy Doyle's tonight: - Geek musician Marian Call is playing at Tommy Doyle's tonight: http://bostonskeptics.com/2010­/10/skeptics-in-the-pub-marian­-call/ Zachary B. Nov 1, 2010 3:24 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Military chaplains: Repeal DADT and you're putting us in a bind - Oath of Enlistment: "I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey Josiah Oct 31, 2010 5:12 PM
Military chaplains: Repeal DADT and you're putting us in a bind - Headline from Farm.com: Military chaplains warn that allowing gays to serve openly in the armed forces will make it impossible for them to serve both God and country. "Thou shalt not kill" apparently still an optional commandment. http://www.google. Zachary B. Oct 31, 2010 5:01 PM
To the heart of a movement | Harvard Gazette - http://news.harvard.edu/gazett­e/story/2010/10/to-the-heart-o­f-a-movement/ --- This message was sent by [address removed] via http://addthis.com. Please note that AddThis does not verify email addresses. Make sharing easier with the Ad Raja Oct 29, 2010 9:23 AM
AHA lawsuit against religious Pledge of Allegiance in Massachusetts public schools - A reminder from Dave Niose, from http://www.meetup.com/bostonat­heists/members/7639720: "I believe I posted something about this here a few months ago, but now the date for filing is getting close so I want to post it again: Any public school parents Zachary B. Oct 28, 2010 1:05 PM
Re: [bostonatheists] Religion's role in depression - Heh.? This is actually how I became an atheist.? As a teenager I was depressed and praying was doing a damn thing to help.? Then I went to therapy and started taking Zoloft.? Voila!? Much better. -Brad On Tue, Oct Brad R. Oct 26, 2010 9:52 AM
Religion's role in depression - "People who see themselves as active participants in their faith are less susceptible to depression. But for those who feel alienated from their religion, it makes them more likely to be clinically depressed." -- from http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/h­ome/ Zachary B. Oct 26, 2010 9:47 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] The huge number of ex-Catholics - While Church/State Separation issues may make it a non-issue for American citizens, Would you guess leaving the church officially has become enough of an issue for the RCC to suspend? " Jonas Oct 26, 2010 8:14 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] The huge number of ex-Catholics - Well, that's what the article says, but it's clearly wrong. Even combining the two main Protestant branches, there are still more Catholics than ex-Catholics by a 2-1 ratio. You just said so. Fourth largest more like, omitting the unaffiliated. Bu Don L. Oct 26, 2010 1:03 AM
Re: [bostonatheists] The huge number of ex-Catholics - p { margin: 0; } Funny you should mention it. My mother is one of those ex-Catholics. She became disillusioned at the ripe Robin U. Oct 25, 2010 8:56 PM
The huge number of ex-Catholics - One out of every three adult Americans who were raised Catholic have left the church. If these ex-Catholics were to form a single church, they would constitute the second largest church in the nation. (from http://commonwealmagazine.org/­further-adrift) Zachary B. Oct 25, 2010 7:37 PM
Abraham?s Progeny, and Their Texts (review of an art and texts exhibition, from the NYTimes) - http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10­/23/arts/design/23faiths.htm; Zachary B. Oct 24, 2010 3:57 PM
RE: [bostonatheists] Chris Stedman today at HuffPo: What are the atheists up to, exactly? - Its ok to disagree on what is real. But we should all agree on the process by which we determine what is real. The alternative is chaos. So if Naturalists ar Will Oct 22, 2010 12:33 PM
RE: [bostonatheists] Chris Stedman today at HuffPo: What are the atheists up to, exactly? - Although what Serenity said apparently has little to do with new-atheism Raja Oct 22, 2010 10:13 AM

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