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Canyon Creek Meadows

We will meet at 8:30AM at the Albertson's on 58th and Main in Springfield.  It is also near a main LTD bus station, for those riding the bus.  I know that some meeting spots don't work for everyone, but please be willing to adapt.  This new spot was suggested since it is along the highway that we are taking to Canyon Creek Meadows.  Plan on leaving promptly at 9:00AM.

Trail Info: Canyon Creek Meadows is a 4.5 mile loop, with an elevation gain of 400'.

Where: Canyon Creek Meadows is located in the Mount Jefferson Wilderness, somewhat near Sisters.

When: Meeting at 8:30AM at Best Buy.

Directions: From I-5 South take the 194A Exit for Springfield.  Follow HWY 126 to Main St. in Springfield, and turn left onto HWY 126 for Bend and Central Oregon.  Follow HWY 126 as it merges into HWY 20 near Santiam Pass.  Turn off HWY 20 about 1 mile East of Suttle Lake at the Wilderness Trailheads sign near milepost 88.  Drive North 4.4 miles on paved Jack Lake Road 12, turn left on one lane Road 1230 for 1.6 miles to the end of the pavement, and then fork left onto gravel Road 1234, climbing 6 miles of washboard gravel to the trailhead at the primitive Jack Lake Campground.

Details: We will leave Best Buy promptly at 9:00AM.  The drive will take a little less than 3 hours by my estimates.  We will hike from Jack Lake 0.4 miles to the start of the loop.  As the Forest Service advises, we will turn left and hike the trail clockwise, limiting the number of hikers we pass on a possible busy afternoon.  The trail will climb gradually over the next 1.7 miles through lodgepole pine snags, pass two ponds, and descend to the lower meadows.  We can stop and take a lunch at the lower meadows.  After enjoying our lunches and relaxing some, we will continue the loop 0.9 miles, passing a beaver marsh before reaching Canyon Creek Falls.  From there it is 1.5 miles back to the trailhead.

Contact: Matt Howell (541)[masked]

Forest Service: Sisters Ranger District (541)[masked]

Requirements and Suggestions: Please bring a packed lunch and enough water to last you for a 4.5 mile hike.  I highly recommend light, quick drying clothing, and dressing in layers.  Durable hiking boots or waterproof shoes are highly encouraged.  Due to it being later into the season, please be sure to pack a warm layer such as a fleece jacket or a down vest or jacket.  The trailhead will be at 5130' and we will climb to about 5500', so please keep it in mind of the weather changes in higher elevation.  Also remember to pack your 10 Essentials.

Ten Essentials:

  1. Map
  2. Compass (optionally supplemented with a GPS receiver)
  3. Sunglasses and sunscreen
  4. Extra food and water
  5. Extra clothes
  6. Headlamp or flashlight
  7. First aid kit
  8. Fire starter
  9. Matches
  10. Knife

Carpooling: We will arrange carpools in the morning.  Please be sure to bring money to chip in for gas to the drivers.  With the distance, I suggest a reasonable $15 to $20 to drivers for their contributions and for their vehicle's wear and tear.

Parking Passes and Forest Regulations: Canyon Creek Meadows requires a Northwest Forest Pass or a $5 day fee.  An annual Northwest Forest Pass is available for $30 at REI and other local sporting goods stores.  Please bring it with you if you have one.  Also it is required that we hike the trail loop clockwise, so please remember that when we start the loop.

* Also, the hike is limited to 12 hikers, due to the "12 Heartbeat Rule".  In principle, the rule regulates the amount of foot traffic per group on the trail at one time.  Pets count as a heartbeat.  Many trails in the wilderness have this rule to keep the trails from being damaged from overuse by large groups, and to embrace the feeling of some solitude in the wilderness. [Note: if more than 12 hikers sign up, Bill will lead a second group]

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  • leslie d

    good times!!!

    October 2, 2011

  • Andrea Brown (.

    Loved it. Probably my second favorite hike so far next to Opal Creek. Loved being at the base of Three Finger Jack. Amazing view. And as usual, the company was phenomenal!

    October 2, 2011

  • A former member
    A former member

    Had a wonderful time for my first hike with the group. Have some nice pics if someone will let me know how to post!! Great time and a very good adventure! As soon as I recover, I'll be on another adventure with the group! Also great pizza place in Sisters!!

    October 2, 2011

  • Orawan

    I may be a few minute late. Off work late and make my bed time even later than I would like. Hope someone get hold of Susanna for me and let her know that she can ride with me since I did not have chance to call her.

    October 1, 2011

  • A former member
    A former member

    I am not sure whether I will be attending tomorrow; not feeling 100%... if you see me in the parking lot at 8:30, or if you don't... that will be my rsvp.

    September 30, 2011

  • leslie d

    yeah,lol. a co-worker pointed out that fact to me today. guess Ill be wearing orange. :)

    September 29, 2011

  • Matthew H.

    Thanks for the information, Bill and Andrea. Greatly appreciated.

    September 29, 2011

  • Bill B

    Thanks for that info, Andrea. It's deer rifle season, so don't look like a deer. Wear bright colors, and leave your deerskin hoodie at home.

    September 29, 2011

  • Andrea Brown (.

    It might also be important to note that this weekend is the opening weekend of hunting season.

    September 29, 2011

  • Bill B

    http://www.oregon.com/Hike_Canyon_Creek_Meadows
    The last 3 miles is a 1,000 foot climb up to 6500 feet and back. Those who don't want to do the whole climb can stop and wait for the climbers to come back down. Forecast is for cool, cloudy, and windy, so bring warm layers and a raincoat just in case.

    1 · September 29, 2011

  • Andrea Brown (.

    So are we doing the extra 3 miles? I would like to. Maybe if we split into two groups, one group can do the extra and the people who don't want to can stay with the second group?

    1 · September 28, 2011

  • Orawan

    Thanks Matt for encouraging!

    September 27, 2011

  • leslie d

    brian, you want to ride together to the meet up? call me;[masked]-7520.
    To Matt , Bill, and everyone else; I can drive. I have a small car. its a sunfire so tall people wont fit comfortably in the back, still, I can take three.

    September 26, 2011

  • Matthew H.

    Orawan - I believe you will do great. The hike only gains about 400' of elevation. Remember to go at your pace, not someone else's. I never want to feel like I'm rushing anyone. The hikes are for everyone to enjoy. Hope to see you join us.

    September 26, 2011

  • Orawan

    My car is fixed now. Would I be able to make the hike with elevation and keep pace with the group? Matt, what do you think?

    September 25, 2011

  • Bill B

    I heard from Russell and he's not going. Darn.

    September 23, 2011

  • Matthew H.

    Russell Harvey - I apologize. I removed you from the list. We were currently full and I had wondered if you had really signed up, or just been left on after suggesting the trip. I noticed on your Facebook you had moved to Federal way, Washington, and you hadn't been to a hike in a year. So I took it upon myself to remove you from the list. Once again, I apologize. Next time I will find a way to contact you first. Thought you were an inactive member.

    September 22, 2011

  • Matthew H.

    Thanks, Susanna. I appreciate the compliment. Thanks to all the leaders for keeping this group going over the last four years. I know I'm looking forward to more trips, and meeting new people each week.

    September 21, 2011

  • A former member
    A former member

    how many heartbeats is too many? i average 52 resting and well, i haven't counted while hiking lately? ha, ha, ha... a little healthy humor (i am still rolling from the laughter at highlands tonight!) matt, your preparedness is awesome...thanks for the all hard work you have put into organizing this trip. U rock!

    September 21, 2011

  • Matthew H.

    Thank you, Bill. I appreciate you being willing to lead a second group that more people can go.

    September 21, 2011

  • Bill B

    I upped the maximum to 24. If we have more than 12 show up, we'll split into 2 groups so we don't have too many heartbeats.

    September 21, 2011

  • Matthew H.

    A hike should be enjoyed at each hikers own pace, not just the fastest person's pace. It loses the joy of being out there for a hike. The point of a hike isn't simply to just get to your destination, but to enjoy what you can see along the way.

    September 21, 2011

  • Roy W.

    Separating groups is a good way of having people getting lost. A good practice is to have the slowest people at the front and someone fast at the back to prevent this. If there needs to be a split, each group needs to have a leader, and everyone needs to know which group they are in.

    September 21, 2011

  • Matthew H.

    I understand that some groups separate due to each hikers own pace. I prefer when doing hikes to try to keep everyone together. There's nothing wrong with being spread out some, but I never leave the last person behind just because their pace is slower. From what I've learned with doing hikes, is that person who feels they were holding up the group or being left behind won't come on hikes anymore. That's not what I want. I want each person to enjoy the hike and want to go again.

    September 21, 2011

  • Erin

    I think splitting into groups is a great idea, because then I get to go lol! Kidding. Honestly though the hikes I've been on the groups tends to split naturally because of pace.

    September 21, 2011

  • Matthew H.

    I wouldn't mind doing two groups. I just know it has to be two separate groups, and no more than 12 people.

    September 20, 2011

  • Bill B

    Hmmm. We could always split into 2 groups of less than 12 couldn't we? I'd be glad to lead a second group if you think that's OK. I've found that people don't usually all hike together anyway. And if you get busted for violating the 12-heartbeat rule, I'll volunteer to do the jail time for the group.

    September 20, 2011

  • Matthew H.

    Some wilderness areas only allow 12 people into an area at a time. It is commonly referred to as the "12 Heartbeat Rule". It is something I recently learned about, and while setting up the hikes, I make sure to always check what size groups I can have on each trip. I apologize that this limits the amount of people that can go, but I must accept the rules and regulations of the forest service. If a spot opens up, you will be automatically included from the waiting list.

    September 20, 2011

  • Erin

    Full? How can it be full, i'd like to go. I can drive

    September 20, 2011

  • Matthew H.

    I'm glad that it helps those that it was intended to help. Also, thanks Roy, for bringing the situation with timing of the bus routes to my attention. I appreciate it. This should be a great hike, and I'm looking forward to it.

    September 19, 2011

  • Roy W.

    The change in location is excellent for buses too :-) (They run ever 15 minutes on Saturday, every half hour on Sunday). Thank you.

    1 · September 19, 2011

  • Brian P.

    Switching to Albertson's in Springfield was an excellent choice and puts us more directly on the route to where we are going

    1 · September 19, 2011

  • Matthew H.

    Thanks for being understanding of trying to find a meeting spot that works for everyone.

    September 18, 2011

  • Matthew H.

    We are now meeting in the morning at the Albertson's on 58th and Main, in Springfield. I apologize for the changing of the spot, but it seems that there truly isn't a spot that will make everyone happy. From now on, I'm just going to keep the meeting spot at what I have and ask people nicely to be willing to adapt. I try my best to pick spots in the general direction that we are heading, near a major road or highway, with a gas station, and a large parking lot that is safe to leave vehicles.

    September 18, 2011

  • Matthew H.

    I will be keeping an eye on the forest fire conditions for this one. I will try to post an update as soon as I find any information on any trail closures in the area. Thanks in advance for the understanding. If the trail does get closed due to the forest fires, I will find another hike to do of about the same level of ability and length.

    September 13, 2011

  • Brian P.

    I vote for the additional 3 miles

    1 · September 3, 2011

  • A former member
    A former member

    Yay for Autumn hiking! I am so grateful for this group and all the opportunities to learn the area. I am up for the extended 3 miles also, why not see what we can if we are already there anyway, right? And I would love to join a carpool. I promise after I find gainful employment and get my rear brakes replaced I will volunteer to drive! Peace {:P

    1 · September 2, 2011

  • Andrea Brown (.

    I'm up for the extended hike if you were going to extend it another 3 miles.

    1 · September 2, 2011

  • Matthew H.

    I have deleted the former comments to eliminate any possible confusion. This hike was suggested to the group quite awhile ago, and it finally has taken life. I'm hoping that the first weekend of October isn't too late into the year for others. I personally love fall hikes and will be going prepared as always. Feel free to spread the word about the hike, and I hope to see a good turnout for this enjoyable hike.

    September 2, 2011

  • Matthew H.

    I would be willing to extend the hike by 3 miles to include the upper meadow and the viewpoint of the saddle.

    September 2, 2011

  • Bill B

    That comment was posted last December. The snow should be gone now.

    September 2, 2011

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