Dreaded + Billy Goat (Moderate Pace) + Optional Santiago Ranch Loop

Get a sneak peek here: Dreaded Hill + Billy Goat

Start your morning with purpose.
This moderate-paced loop features the notorious climb up Dreaded Hill, followed by a rugged, uneven stretch through Billy Goat trail—both known for their difficulty and trail variety. Though the route isn’t long in distance, the sustained effort and terrain make it a highly effective workout for building stamina, leg strength, and trail fitness.
The mix of elevation, uneven footing, and steady pacing provides a challenge that leaves you feeling stronger—mentally and physically.

For those looking to go a bit further, there’s an optional extension through Santiago Ranch and Sage Scrub trail. These moderate trails offer a steady effort with scenic views and added mileage for those wanting a little extra.

Disclaimer: Not So Casual Hikes are fast-paced, challenging outings designed for hikers in great shape who know their limits and show up prepared. Our organizers are volunteers—not guides—and cannot be responsible for your pace, navigation, or safety. We don’t provide sweepers, and the group may not wait if you fall behind. You might finish with new friends or on your own—and either way, it's part of the journey. By signing up, you take full responsibility for your fitness, gear, hydration, and navigation. We don’t tailor pace or routes for individuals, and we don’t make space for complaints. What we do offer is a supportive, like-minded community that thrives on grit, respect, and pushing the edge together. If that speaks to you—we’re glad you found us. Let's move.

Details:

• Meeting Place: Parking lot adjacent to Starbucks and Wahoo’s.
• Difficulty: Moderate – based on distance, elevation, and pace.
• Distance / Elevation / Duration: Approximately 7-8 miles, ~1,578 ft elevation gain, estimated time 2.5–3 hours at a moderate to fast pace.
• Note: This is a group workout. There is no designated leader or sweeper - come prepared to navigate and keep pace.

Essentials:

• Traction hiking shoes
• Plenty of water (electrolytes recommended)
• Quick snacks
• Sunglasses & sunscreen
• Hat or sun protection

Route:
We’ll begin with a flat warm-up for the first ~1.5 miles before the workout kicks in with the ascent up Dreaded Hill. From there, we’ll loop through Four Corners, Billy Goat, Cactus Hill, Sage, and Serrano Cow.

For those wanting a bit more, we’ll include an optional extension through Santiago Ranch and Vulture View—a scenic, moderate stretch that adds mileage and training value before reconnecting with Serrano Trail and returning to the parking lot.
Expect a mix of exposed climbs, technical footing, and steady trail transitions throughout the route.

📍 Download the route map for navigation here: https://www.alltrails.com/explore/map/dh-bg-vulture-389bc7b?u=i&sh=pxabuh

About Whiting Ranch: Explore the natural beauty of Limestone Canyon & Whiting Ranch Wilderness Park, spanning 4,300 acres of diverse landscapes. From riparian and oak woodland canyons to rolling grassland hills, immerse yourself in the stunning scenery, including the captivating Red Rock Canyon. Witness remnants of the park's cattle ranching past as it rejuvenates from the 2007 Santiago Fire.
For more information:

• Orange County Parks
• Whiting Ranch Wilderness

Directions: If traveling south on Fwy 405 or 5, exit Bake Pkwy, turn left on Bake Pkwy, and continue for about 4.5 - 5 miles. Turn right at Portola and right at the light of Glenn Ranch (park at the Starbucks coffee parking). For those heading north on 5, consider exiting at Lake Forest and proceed toward Foothill Ranch, following similar directions as mentioned above.

Punctuality & RSVP Etiquette:
We kindly request that all participants aim to be punctual. Our group will wait for a grace period of 5 minutes past the scheduled start time for any latecomers. However, if you realize that you're running late, please inform us through the message board. This will help us know to wait a bit longer for you and ensure we don't leave anyone behind.
If your plans change and you're unable to attend after RSVPing, please cancel your RSVP before the event begins. This consideration allows us to manage the group size effectively and opens up space for others who might be on a waiting list.

REMINDER: By joining the meetup, you agree to Meetup Terms of Service, releasing the Organizer, Co-Organizer, and Assistant Organizers from any liability related to incidents during gatherings.
IMPORTANT SAFETY NOTICE: Hiking is a rewarding activity, but certain dangers exist. These may include trip and fall injuries, bee stings, poison oak exposure, ticks, snake bites, coyotes, mountain lions, or wildlife encounters. By registering for this event, you explicitly recognize that our organizers and participants are not professional guides or certified experts. You assume responsibility for yourself and your safety, agreeing to hold harmless the hike organizer, co-organizer, assistant organizers, and fellow participants for any injuries sustained during the hike. This acknowledgment extends to any unforeseen incidents or accidents that might take place, emphasizing your commitment to personal responsibility for your safety throughout the entire event. Your participation implies your understanding and acceptance of the shared responsibility for ensuring a safe and enjoyable experience for everyone involved.