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Re: [homebirth-65] EMERGENT HELP NEEDED - Mom in Need

From: Courtney
Sent on: Friday, January 9, 2009 8:54 AM
I am also a student nurse-midwife at UIC (Hi Lisa!) and I happened to be at clinical when I read this message.  I talked with the midwife who said someone walking in to UIC without having seen the midwives would be under the care of the docs and it is likely they would want to do a repeat section.  If she walked in with medical records in hand it might help but the only clear thing would be to see a midwife beforehand like Lisa suggested.  Could she pay out of pocket for one or two PNV with the CNMs at UIC then get her insurance to pay for the birth?  Otherwise remind her that she has the right to informed consent for any procedure though it may be an uphill battle.  ACOG has reaffirmed that getting courts involved in maternity care choices is anappropriate.  Her best bet may be showing up at her original hospital very close to delivery so they do not have time to involve any legal people and to very clearly state that she does not consent to section and she will press charges if it is done against her will.  Does she have a doula?   

--- On Thu, 1/8/09, Lisa Wangerien <[address removed]> wrote:
From: Lisa Wangerien <[address removed]>
Subject: Re: [homebirth-65] EMERGENT HELP NEEDED - Mom in Need
To: [address removed]
Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 10:18 PM

I understand her predicament, and I feel badly for
her.  There are few options to consider at this point.
 I am a student nurse-midwife at UIC and I asked our
clinical director if there was anything we could do.

Here is what she said "we expect anyone who wishes a
VTOL to have a prenatal appt with us: any site, but to
get a CNM at UIH we must see the woman in pregnancy:
otherwise she would be a walk-in / "no PN care"
patient, and be managed by the docs. they would likely
do a VTOL for her: IF she brought her records, was low
risk, etc, etc.
 
I could not see her til Wed next week.  If she were to
call and make an appt, she should bring all labs
results, etc so we could have all needed info. also
scar/op report."

So, if she would like to transfer to UIC she could be
managed by the midwives assuming she is an appropriate
candidate.  If she is interested, I would suggest
making an appointment with Cheri Moran, PhD, CNM.  She
practices at Miles Square Health Center on Wednesdays.
 She will see this patient if she calls and makes an
appointment for next Wednesday.  She may need to say
that Cheri said to overbook her.  Make sure she brings
all records.

2045 E. Washington, 3rd Floor
[masked] 

I wish her the best.  I know too well the battles
women face!




--- Gina C-C <[address removed]> wrote:


---------------------------------
I'm sorry to email the mailing list like this, but I'm
determined to help a very scared mommy who's just 5
days away from her due date.
 
Her "supposedly VBAC friendly" doctor just did a 180
at her 39 week appointment and told her that he will
not "let her" go a single day past her due date, and
said in very clear terms that he would force her to
have a c-section if she was not in labor by Tuesday. 
We know that's not legal, but he can make things
terrible for her.
 
I was in her exact position 8 months ago, so I know
what she's going through. I stayed with my doctor and
ended up going through 38 hours of torturous hospital
labor where I literally had to fight him off of me to
deliver my baby by a successful VBAC.  I wouldn't wish
that hell on any mom.
 
She wants to find a provider willing to take her as a
walk-in when she goes into labor (the only way
insurance will pay for it), but she said she's been
calling around and no one is willing to take her this
close to her due date.  Anyone have any advice or
references here?  Any providers here willing to talk
with her?
 
Please let me know if you can provide any information
that might help this scared, stressed mommy.
 
Thank you!!!
Gina




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