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Re: [humanism-174] Now, about that God character... :)

From: Greg P.
Sent on: Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:51 PM
I'd agree with that. Think of how much of science fiction 
has become reality. And who is largely responsible for 
that? People who read a lot of science fiction when they 
were growing up!

On Thu, 6 Dec[masked]:26:54 -0500
  Tim Campbell <[address removed]> wrote:
> Also true.  Perhaps too much reality is equally bad for 
>the young  minds. 
> After all, imagination is an important part of our 
>humanity!  
> 
> 
> In a message dated 12/6/2012 4:23:24 P.M. Eastern 
>Standard Time,  
> [address removed] writes:
> 
> And one  can also read fairy tales about dragons and 
>princesses and
> witches and  such, to children, I believe, with no long 
>term  ill
> effects...
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Greg Priddy 
> <[address removed]> 
> wrote:
>> The difference I see is that  parents don't persist and 
>>reinforce the 
> common
>> childhood mythical  characters as they do with religion.
>>
>> Also, children are not  taught that any of those 
>>characters will send 
> them to
>> hell for  eternity if they are bad or stop believing. 
>>The worst outcome 
> in a
>>  child's mind would be a lack of hidden eggs or presents 
>>under the  tree.
>>
>> On Thu, 6 Dec[masked]:05:49 -0500
>>  Tim  Campbell <[address removed]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have  mixed feelings on this. I understand the "fun" 
>>>of Santa and the
>>>  Easter Bunny, etc, but at the same time, they ARE 
>>>fictiona­l creatures  
> and
>>> the  parents who pretend are actually lying to their 
>>> children. Is this 
> truly
>>> harmless  fun or does it in fact set  up a psychological 
>>>basis for 
> teaching
>>> them other  myths as  fact? And of course, when the 
>>>children­ find out 
> that
>>> Santa is a  myth,  does that discovery affect their 
>>>acceptan­ce of  
> anything
>>> coming from their  parents?
>>>
>>>  When my mother told me that thunder was the sound of 
>>>Jesus and the  
> angels
>>> bowling, was she lying, or did she just not know what 
>>>the  hell thunder 
> is?
>>> And was she harming me or would I have been  better off 
>>>with a more 
> rational
>>> explanation?  Santa, angels  bowling, the Easter Bunny, 
>>>Magic Jesus. Is
>>> there any real  difference?
>>>
>>> And btw, yes, I and my ex DID roll with  the Santa thing 
>>>with our  kids!
>>> Didn't seem to harm them, but  they now know my position 
>>>on all of  this
>>>  stuff!
>>>
>>> Tim  Campbell
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 12/6/2012  3:16:54 P.M. Eastern 
>>>Standard­ Time,
>>> [address removed]  writes:
>>>
>>> That's  just wrong. I understand it was  in the context 
>>>of lesson on 
> 'real
>>> vs.  imaginary', but still,  the teacher should take 
>>>into account what's 
> real
>>> *to a 5-year  old*.
>>>
>>> Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy: all part  of 
>>> the fun of being a
>>> child. Kids figure that stuff out on  their own, and 
>>> parents let them 
> let it
>>> go. Unlike some other  myths we know  about...
>>>
>>>  -Greg
>>>
>>> On Thu, 6 Dec[masked]:01:48 -0500
>>>  Mark  Tiborsky <[address removed]>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Some parents in TX are  furious  because a teacher 
>>>>indi­cated to
>>>> Kindergarten
>>>>  students  that Santa isn't  real-
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
> http://www.huffin...­
>>>
>>>
>>>
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