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Re: [humanism-174] Now, about that God character... :)

From: Tim C.
Sent on: Monday, December 10, 2012 8:08 AM
TC3 seems to have gone off the reservation. You were never on the reservation in the first place. 
In a message dated 12/10/2012 5:24:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [address removed] writes:
It's funny how when TC3 agreed with you he was your
'buddy', and now that that he does not, he's now insane. 
At least TC3 used the smiley face emoticon. 

Perhaps, you should both re-read some of your comments
you've written to describe me.  And you didn't use a smiley. 
I guess you all just have a double standard. 

M. Orel

On[masked]:16, Randy Pelton wrote:
You think it humorous to tell me to shut TC3? Huge mistake. Everything you say is now under greater scrutiny.


From: Tim Campbell <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Sunday, December 9, [masked]:12 AM
Subject: Re: [humanism-174] Now, about that God character... :)

Telling someone in this forum to shut up is neither cool nor wise, TC3.  You have thrown out some rather insane comments (putting maritime law and state ownership of children into a single paragraph was interesting if not quite rational), but while you may be shot down for such comments, you won't be told to shut up. 
Tim Campbell
In a message dated 12/9/2012 1:14:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [address removed] writes:
Oh of course. You seem like an awesome and well informed parent. My point was and is simple. It is impossible to choose whether or not a child is exposed to the local mythology and also impossible to choose for a person what they believe.

and shut up Randy. lol

On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Joanna <[address removed]> wrote:
Maybe my idea of parenting is different than all others but I never once considered part of the job shutting them out of life. Just because I don't control the universe does not mean I have no choice on how I parent - meaning helping them grow and learn all about life. Parenting is not about being a control freak; you will lose that battle. It's about confronting society WITH your children and HELPING them understand it.
Wow. This conversation took a strange turn, huh?

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From: TC3 <[address removed]>;
To: <[address removed]>;
Subject: Re: [humanism-174] Now, about that God character... :)
Sent: Sat, Dec 8,[masked]:46:14 PM

It's called Maritime admiralty law, it exists but is on the fence as to whether it applies on land and to us or not. I think it does. No one seems to have a definitive answer at to whether or not capitis diminutio even exists.

Try to raise a child without ever 'allowing' them to see the Easter bunny or Santa Clause. Decide for the school what they will be taught. Even home school is not your choice. You think you have a choice but you do not. Your supposed freedom ends where your driveway meets their sidewalk. The only way you have a 'choice' is to keep your child indoors and even then they will see lights and decorations from the window. You don't even decide what they believe. The term adult is a false confidence instilling social engineering term. Both the adult and the child are 'children' of the state. A modern buzz statement goes like this, "It's not the Statue of Freedom, it's the State of Liberty." Freedom is free, Liberty requires permission. You signed the certificate and received the injections therefor you do not choose what the young person sees, and only the person themselves can choose what they believe. 
You're claiming the parent has the choice. I'm claiming the choice was made for them.

On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Tim Campbell <[address removed]> wrote:
Sorry, I disagree with this statement in its entirety.  Not enough time to argue point by point, but yours is a completely false statement.  Please show laws and cases to support your contention. A completely insane statement.

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