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Re: [humanism-174] Now, about that God character... :)

From: Randy P.
Sent on: Monday, December 10, 2012 9:31 AM
I never claimed TC3 as a "buddy." I also never said TC3 was insane. He has a muddle-head, confused, distorted way of thinking. He certainly fails to use skepticism and puts his critical thinking faculties to exceptionally poor use. But neither of these make him insane. Perhaps you should take your own advice and reread some of my posts. I commented early on that I thought TC3 was making ridiculous and unsupported claims. But I never used the word insane. Tim also did not call him insane. He said he has made some "insane" comments. Not the same thing as saying a person is insane. It was Tim, who has since revised his opinion, that suggested I give TC3 a chance. He has been given that chance and demonstrated himself to be what I thought him to be - a peddler of ridiculous claims and unsupported absurdities. My criticisms of him would be leveled at anyone who insisted on spouting the pablum he has been issuing. Hell, if Tim Campbell, or anyone else on this forum whose intellect I have come to respect, began making idiotic bullshit claims as TC3 has been making I'd be equally blistering in my criticisms. 

The smiley-faced emoticon and the lol at the end of his comments does not make it okay to tell me to shut up. He has the freedom to say this to me. He does not have the right to be free of criticism or my response to him telling me to shut up. 

I stand by everyone of my comments about you. I'll also add that I now think they each apply equally well to TC3. The two of you live in similar asinine mental worlds of your own construction and design.


From: Mark R. Orel <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Monday, December 10,[masked]:24 AM
Subject: Re: [humanism-174] Now, about that God character... :)

It's funny how when TC3 agreed with you he was your
'buddy', and now that that he does not, he's now insane. 
At least TC3 used the smiley face emoticon. 

Perhaps, you should both re-read some of your comments
you've written to describe me.  And you didn't use a smiley. 
I guess you all just have a double standard. 


M. Orel

On[masked]:16, Randy Pelton wrote:
You think it humorous to tell me to shut TC3? Huge mistake. Everything you say is now under greater scrutiny.

Randy


From: Tim Campbell <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Sunday, December 9,[masked]:12 AM
Subject: Re: [humanism-174] Now, about that God character... :)

Telling someone in this forum to shut up is neither cool nor wise, TC3.  You have thrown out some rather insane comments (putting maritime law and state ownership of children into a single paragraph was interesting if not quite rational), but while you may be shot down for such comments, you won't be told to shut up. 
Tim Campbell
 
In a message dated 12/9/2012 1:14:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [address removed] writes:
Oh of course. You seem like an awesome and well informed parent. My point was and is simple. It is impossible to choose whether or not a child is exposed to the local mythology and also impossible to choose for a person what they believe.

and shut up Randy. lol


On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Joanna <[address removed]> wrote:
Maybe my idea of parenting is different than all others but I never once considered part of the job shutting them out of life. Just because I don't control the universe does not mean I have no choice on how I parent - meaning helping them grow and learn all about life. Parenting is not about being a control freak; you will lose that battle. It's about confronting society WITH your children and HELPING them understand it.
Wow. This conversation took a strange turn, huh?


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From: TC3 <[address removed]>;
To: <[address removed]>;
Subject: Re: [humanism-174] Now, about that God character... :)
Sent: Sat, Dec 8, 2012 6:46:14 PM

It's called Maritime admiralty law, it exists but is on the fence as to whether it applies on land and to us or not. I think it does. No one seems to have a definitive answer at to whether or not capitis diminutio even exists.

Try to raise a child without ever 'allowing' them to see the Easter bunny or Santa Clause. Decide for the school what they will be taught. Even home school is not your choice. You think you have a choice but you do not. Your supposed freedom ends where your driveway meets their sidewalk. The only way you have a 'choice' is to keep your child indoors and even then they will see lights and decorations from the window. You don't even decide what they believe. The term adult is a false confidence instilling social engineering term. Both the adult and the child are 'children' of the state. A modern buzz statement goes like this, "It's not the Statue of Freedom, it's the State of Liberty." Freedom is free, Liberty requires permission. You signed the certificate and received the injections therefor you do not choose what the young person sees, and only the person themselves can choose what they believe. 
You're claiming the parent has the choice. I'm claiming the choice was made for them.



On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Tim Campbell <[address removed]> wrote:
Sorry, I disagree with this statement in its entirety.  Not enough time to argue point by point, but yours is a completely false statement.  Please show laws and cases to support your contention. A completely insane statement.
Tim
 





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