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Re: [humanism-174] better memory

From: Greg P.
Sent on: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 11:52 AM
My thoughts exactly! Just as the religious NALTs are the 
power base for the nutters, so to are the moderate Rs the 
power base for the wingnut conservatives.

On Tue, 25 Jun[masked]:43:40 -0400
  Vinay Chandnani <[address removed]> wrote:
> The problem with someone being Republican is the fact 
>that he/she is voting for those people who seem to be 
>obsessed with including religion in our laws.  Yes, they 
>keep talking about smaller government....govern­ment small 
>enough to fit in a uterus and in a gay person's personal 
>life.  Yet, I don't see any fiscal policy coming out that 
>seems to benefit the country as a whole.  Our 
>infrastructure sucks, because the U.S. House is more 
>worried about restricting abortions instead of focusing 
>on the business of the country: the Economics!  I'm so 
>sick of that nonsense!
> 
> So pardon me as a gay man for not appreciating 
>Republicans who keep John Boehner (Boner) as speaker!
> 
> Vinay
> 
> 
> ____________________­____________
> From: Gary <[address removed]>
> To: [address removed] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 25,[masked]:22 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: [humanism-174] better memory
> 
> 
> 
>   It was a long time ago, Sam, before you were in the 
>group.  All water under the bridge.
>  
>   Point is that this is an anti-theist support group.  
>Science, logic, evidence, and chuch/state issues are what 
>we all generally agree upon.  And while the GOP is 
>hopelessly ridiculous on these issues, some here identify 
>themselves as Republicans for other reasons 
>(smaller/cheaper­/more efficient government, job creation, 
>national security...).  Wheth­er or not the GOP is better 
>able to achieve these goals than the Democrats is 
>debatable; however, some believe that they are.  While 
>the Republican PARTY deserves scorn on science and 
>religious issues, (I'm guessing that) Republican PEOPLE 
>in this group don't appreciate being lumped in with some 
>of the crazies that run their party.  Though not a 
>Republican myself, I decided that this wasn't the right 
>forum to have respectful economic discussions.
>  
>   I don't have a list of names of those drummed out, but 
>this group has never taken kindly to dissent.  Some were 
>trolls, but some (it seems to me) were 
>searchers, possi­bly teenagers, just trying to figure shit 
>out.  If you "don't suffer fools", simply don't respond.  
>Let someone else with some patience and understanding 
>guide the searchers and kill the trolls with kindness.  
>Should be the same technique for both.
>  
>  
>  
> Sam wrote:
>  
> I honestly don't remember anyone using any negatively 
>witty anti-Democratic remarks. And I personally have not 
>been offended by any ones political statements. Maybe I 
>missed something. 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Mark Tiborsky 
><[address removed]> wrote: 
> 
> Hey, wait a minute- I realize that through the years I 
>have sometimes been absent from the forum for 3 or 4 days 
>at a time. But in general I have "caught up" with the 
>activity, and I honestly don't remember you being treated 
>in a vile manner. I remember you calling some of us 
>"Comrades", but I don't remember anyone being offended by 
>your implying that we were communists :) There was one on 
>the forum who was capable of vileness towards other 
>members, but that person has been out of the group for 
>some time. 
> 
> 
> Who was "drummed out"? 
> On Jun 24,[masked]:31 PM, "Gary" <[address removed]> 
>wrote: 
> 
> 
>   I once made a joke
> here about the group's Democrat-leaning bias a while 
>back, complete with a whistful smiley-face emoticon  :) 
> 
> 
>   
>   Boy, did they tear me a new one.  And not in a 
>constructive, thoughtful, evidence-based, 
>point-counterpoi­nt fashion.  Lots of vile, hateful 
>name-calling.  And I'm more Democrat than Republican. 
>   
>   Everyone wants to dish it out, but no one wants to 
>take it.  I don't want to take it, so I stopped dishing 
>it out.  And since I agree with 99% of the religious, 
>science, and social-issue comments here, I stopped 
>altogether.  I like the group and the forum and love to 
>read the church/state and science articles, but this just 
>isn't the place for respectful economic political 
>discussion. 
> 
> 
>   
>   And since then, they've drummed out a number of 
>others.  Some deservedly so, due to their manner; 
>however, some simply disagreed,
> questioned, weren't as fully-formed, or weren't as far 
>along the path to atheism as the rest of us.  Rather than 
>win these people over and help guide them down the path, 
>they bullied them right out the door...with an 
>unflattering story to tell their friends about atheists. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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