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RE: [humanism-174] Aha!

From: user 3.
Sent on: Thursday, August 2, 2007 8:58 AM
Siddhartha Gautama (who became the historic Buddha) wrote about what we might call psychological issues, not religious ones...


---- Todd Maher <[address removed]> wrote: 
> My wife is a Buddhist and I will say Buddha wasn't an atheist. He believed that the goal was to attain "Buddhahood". When transcending this path, atheism and the ponderance of atheism would only get into the path of wanting nothing.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: charles pervo <[address removed]>
> >Sent: Jul 31,[masked]:47 AM
> >To: [address removed]
> >Subject: RE: [humanism-174] Aha!
> >
> >at one point, Bertrand Russell said if he had to choose a religion, it would be buddism...
> >---- Marni Tiborsky <[address removed]> wrote: 
> >> Awesome Quote!
> >> 
> >> It is interesting to note that Joseph McCabe, author of "The Biographical
> >> Dictionary of Freethinkers", maintained that Buddha himself was an Atheist! 
> >> 
> >> I was doing some searches for quotes myself- here's a good one from Shelley:
> >> 
> >> 
> >>  
> >> 
> >> If ignorance of nature gave birth to gods, knowledge of nature is made for
> >> their destruction.
> >> -- Percy Bysshe Shelley, The Necessity of Atheism
> >> 
> >> A bit harsh maybe, but makes sense.
> >> 
> >> MARK
> >> 
> >>   _____  
> >> 
> >> From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of
> >> Maude
> >> Sent: Monday, July 30,[masked]:17 PM
> >> To: [address removed]
> >> Subject: [humanism-174] Aha!
> >> 
> >>  
> >> 
> >> In going through quotes for tshirts I found the Einstein quote about
> >> Buddhism. I was mistaken in that he didn't say that if he were to subscribe
> >> to a religion it would be buddhism, but that if any religion were to mesh
> >> with his scientific view, it would be buddhism. I found this to be true
> >> myself, in that I do not really see buddhism as a religion but as a way of
> >> conducting one's life in order to encourage others to act morally and
> >> ethically. Also interesting is that buddhist college-level study is greatly
> >> consumed with courses on cosmology, and has been for 1000 years, way before
> >> Einstein. But here is the quote-not that it would ever fit on a tshirt-LOL!
> >> 
> >>  
> >> 
> >> The mystical trend of our time, which shows itself particularly in the
> >> rampant growth of the so-called Theosophy and Spiritualism, is for me no
> >> more than a symptom of weakness and confusion. Since our inner experiences
> >> consist of reproductions, and combinations of sensory impressions, the
> >> concept of a soul without a body seem to me to be empty and devoid of
> >> meaning.
> >>      The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion. The religion
> >> which based on experience, which refuses dogmatic. If there's any religion
> >> that would cope the scientific needs it will be Buddhism....
> >>      If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for
> >> reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed.
> >>      The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more
> >> certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie
> >> through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but
> >> through striving after rational knowledge.
> >>      Immortality? There are two kinds. The first lives in the imagination of
> >> the people, and is thus an illusion. There is a relative immortality which
> >> may conserve the memory of an individual for some generations. But there is
> >> only one true immortality, on a cosmic scale, and that is the immortality of
> >> the cosmos itself. There is no other.
> >> -- Albert Einstein, quoted in Madalyn Murray O'Hair, All the Questions You
> >> Ever Wanted to Ask American Atheists (1982) vol. ii., p. 29
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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