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Group name discussion

As per last Sundays discussion, we are going to meet on Saturday to discuss and debate different options for the official name of this group, now that we are no longer under the CFI umbrella.

Please bring any name ideas and opinions you have, and we will discuss them all.

Legal Grounds is confirmed, time changed to 3PM since they close at 5.

We will be in the big board room.

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  • Kevin F.

    great discussion, great points, lots of respect and a positive ending

    April 29, 2013

  • Ivor S.

    This is further to my first comment on the name selection meeting, in which I suggested that leading the name with "Atheists" could be a turnoff to people who could be interested in us. Confirmed atheists will find us anyway. Much was made of the acronym ASH, as in the Fraser Valley ASH group. But it suggests "Burned out." On the other hand, The Fraser Valley HAS (some answers) Group, may ring bells and open doors. Is it too late to reconsider?

    1 · April 28, 2013

    • Mark C.

      Sorry Ivor but the decision is made and it's time to move on to another subject. If the term atheism is a turn off it's their problem, not ours. We should do anything we can to promote positive atheism but why should be be afraid to use the term? We have had Christianity rammed down our throat for 2000 years and now we dare to speak up and try to get our voice heard and declare we are atheist it's a problem? Too bad. I believe it's the duty of those who have the freedom to speak out to be the voice of those who can't. Many people around the world can't declare their atheism due to threat of arrest of even death. We can and should not be afraid to.

      1 · April 28, 2013

  • Ivor S.

    The group settled on the name Fraser Valley Atheists, Skeptics and Humanists (if I have it right.) By choice I would have changed the order. Sixty or more years ago, freshly released from notions of God looking over our shoulders, my mates and I were ready to do battle out loud with proponents of theism in its several forms. So I understand the fervor of younger members who want head-on engagement, which, I believe, the label "Atheist" invites. It shuts religious minds to persuasion, for if you aren't guided by God, surely you must be the unprincipled tool of Satan, and anything you say or do must have evil, seductive purpose. First labeled an atheist, even looking like a decent human must be part of the trickery. First seen as a decent human, then the surprise that you are an atheist opens minds to examination of ideas. Agreed, there is a need to get religion out of politics and public life. The answer may lie in a combination of private example and public warfare.

    1 · April 27, 2013

  • Nancy G.

    Good thoughtful discussion. Glad to have been a part of the group!

    April 27, 2013

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