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Re: FW: RE: Re: [transhumanism-14] Re: transhumanism VS intergralism

From: postjam
Sent on: Monday, September 8, 2008 11:58 PM we can achieve quite a lot without implants etc if we are driven to cultivate ourselves. don't you think>?

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Perry Metzger <[address removed]> wrote:

Devon Fowler <[address removed]> writes:
> I just wanted to introduce myself.  my name is Devon fowler and I've been
> interested in Transhumanism for 7 or so years now.  I'm particularly
> interested in getting through this phase to the post human phase where we
> can really let loose and live the way humans were meant to live.

I don't know if true posthumans would look terribly much like humans
in any respect. Their motivations may be extraordinarily different.

> I'm also very interested in Immortalism and plan to live forever if
> I can help it.

Forever seems unlikely. Current research seems to indicate that only a
finite amount of matter and energy is accessible to an agent that
can't exceed the speed of light. It also appears that only a finite
amount of computation is possible to such an agent, though that is
less well established. That said, I'll happily take a thousand years
or even 200 years over 100, and in the unlikely event that I can
manage a billion or two I won't say no.

Perry E. Metzger                [address removed]

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