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Re: Re[2]: [blacktechies] App to avoid black neighborhoods

From: Randy
Sent on: Friday, August 8, 2014, 6:06 AM
Thank you Candida as I agree that what's under the hood is more important than the initial perception of what the App may be. Typically Apps that perform well and produce data, especially big data, like this location App, evolve into something useful. 

Many times really good Apps disappear into the background, meaning what it is this year it may not be next year. Shazam is a music identifier App which will soon become native to phones and the App itself will likely just go away as the functionality of it will be built in.

Also, thank you for providing insight as many are quick to pull a race card when in reality the developers really don't think about race when developing. Especially when the user could be anyone. 

On the New Jersey turnpike there's a sketchy area around exit 2 where there's a town and their only income comes from giving out tickets. Was that a racist comment?? Actually, I have no idea who lives there but that court date was quite the sketchy experience. 

- Randy

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On Aug 8, 2014, at 2:05 AM, Candida Haynes <[address removed]> wrote:

The metadata around the people who choose to use the app and how they judge "sketchy" can be useful in describing far more than the neighborhood in question. Users are content - I can't see the privacy settings, but there is a gold rush for personal location data, and anyone who is using the app is giving it up. What they/we think we are producing when we use an app is often less important than what's happening under the hood, from a data standpoint, and there are some interesting extrapolations to pursue with an app like this one.

In the interest of full disclosure, I met Herrington briefly at NYC BigApps, and he was aware of the ways that his peers might potentially abuse the app and expose him to a shit storm. I had no advice for him, but I also understand that entrepreneurs take risks. The team's execution and how society uses the data will guide whether the app reinforces, exposes, or subverts racism/racists. I can also see how it might provide useful city data.

Lastly, I think a crowd-sourced map of race traps, Klan activity, etc. would be interesting, visually compelling, useful, and competitive for funding if the team is tight and you can connect with investors who understand the investment value of culture. It's more data for the big bucket and another way to generate important dialogue.

Okay, stay awesome!

Candida








On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 1:13 AM, Jonathan <[address removed]> wrote:
To think someone thought this worth venture capital. Maybe one off us should build an app that tells us where we can go to avoid driving while black traffic stops and Klansman.

Jonathan

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Friday, August 8, 2014, 12:43 AM -0400 from Steven Francisco <[address removed]>:

if it keeps the gentrification at bay I might report whole neighborhoods...
On Aug 8,[masked]:11 AM, "Therese L" < [address removed] > wrote:
>Thought this was interesting to share. 
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>Is there any way to keep white people from using computers, before this whole planet is ruined? I ask because the two enterprising white entrepreneurs above just made yet another app for avoiding non-white areas of your town—and it's really taking off!
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>Crain's reports on SketchFactor, a racist app made for avoiding "sketchy" neighborhoods, which is the term young white people use to describe places where they don't feel safe because they watched all five seasons of The Wire:
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>SketchFactor, the brainchild of co-founders Allison McGuire and Daniel Herrington, is a Manhattan-based navigation app that crowdsources user experiences along with publicly available data to rate the relative "sketchiness" of certain areas in major cities. The app will launch on the iTunes on Friday, capping off a big week for the startup, which was named as a finalist in the NYC BigApps competition.
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>According to Ms. McGuire, a Los Angeles native who lives in the West Village, the impetus behind SketchFactor was her experience as a young woman navigating the streets of Washington, D.C., where she worked at a nonprofit.
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>...
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>After meeting Mr. Herrington, an electrical engineer who was taken with the SketchFactor idea, the two quit their Washington D.C.-based jobs and decamped to New York City with funding from family and friends.
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>As one of the finalists in the BigApps competition, SketchFactor is poised to receive more attention when it launches. With firsthand experience living in Washington, D.C., where white terror is as ubiquitous as tucked-in polo shirts, grinning caucasians Allison McGuire and Daniel Herrington should be unstoppable in the field of smartphone race-baiting—they're already finalists in a $20,000 startup contest! But don't worry: they're not racist. It says so right on their blog, which asks people to share "sketchy" stories about strangers they spot:
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>Who we're not: racists, bigots, sexists. Any discriminatory posts will be deleted.
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>Source: http://valleywag.gawker.com/smiling-young-white-people-make-app-for-avoiding-black-1617775138/all
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