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Welcome Home SPIRITUAL TRAPS BY NISARGADATTA MAHARAJ I'm not interested if you're satisfied or if you're pacified with your spiritual life. Do you know who you are? One of the greatest problems in spirituality as well as psychology is the guru or teacher knowingly or unknowingly giving misinformation. QUESTION: What are the bigggest traps in spirituality? Relatively speaking, the biggest and by far and away the most important spiritual trap, is taking the mirage to be real. If you take the mirage to be real, you take the illusion to be real, then all the other spiritual traps will follow. The second spiritual trap, after you're taking this to be real, is trying to make yourself into a better mirage, more pacified, more embodied, more integrated better being, able to do more, be more, have more, create more in your life. When you fall for the second spiritual trap, which is believing that it is real and then trying to make yourself into a better mirage, then you fall down the rabbit hole of trying to be more purified, more embodied, making yourself better and the problem is that to try and be a better I, me in this world. The Buddha said in the Diamond Sutra quote: " There is no world". Nisargadatta Maharaj said: " Give up the tendency to improve yourself". So the problem is that you take on this spiritual idea called "I am" and "I am in this world" and the next thing you do is you're trying to improve yourself, trying to transform yourself, trying to make yourself better and which leads to the third trap. The third trap is taking on the spiritual persona. Once you fall for number 1, it's real. Number 2, making myself better. Number 3 is how do I make myself better? I will make myself better by generally taking on someone else's spiritual path and someone else's culture. For example, when I lived in India I was in my 20's and I began to take on another person's path and I started to take on another person's culture. Swami Pranavananda said to me once, that people come from the West and they take on the identity of indian culture thinking that that's somehow spiritual. Yogananda Paramahansa said the spiritual ego is the most difficult to let go of. So you have spiritual, we'll check on the spiritual ego, you have all the spiritual super ego, super shoulds, the spiritual persona of shoulds; I should always be caring, I should always be loving, I should always be kind, I should always be gentle; and what you find is this persona, it becomes like a mask. And when that persona and that mask take hold and people kind of are always kind of that sweet saccarin (we call it saccarin because that's fake sugar). It's fake sugar with saccarin it might taste good but it's really, really bad for your health. Once you take on that, it leads to the fourth trap which is: INTEGRATION. I am now going to integrate this into a brand new spiritual lifestyle. All of a sudden I'm going to join a group, I'm going to join a community. I'm going to look a certain way, I'm going to talk a certain way, I'm going to act a certain way. The famous philosopher Michel Foucault said: "The teacher decides what discourse is going to be". What that means is: once you have taken track number 1, it's real, number 2, making yourself better, number 3, taking on the persona, now we have the fourth trap which follows, which is: now we are part of the spiritual lifestyle. And the teacher determines what this discourse is going to be. What's the discourse? The discourse is what I am supposed to feel, how I'm supposed to act, how I'm supposed to behave, how I'm supposed to sit and act in the context of life. And somehow, if I am able to do that, that is "more spiritual". When you fall for all of these spiritual traps, I'm talking realtively and metaphorically speaking, when you fall for all of these spiritual traps it has a domino affect and what gets lost and forgotten is not only finding out who you are, but also you forget the fact that spirituality is part of the illusion. Spirituality is part of the mirage. Even more importantly, the knower-of the mirage, the awarer of the illusion, of the consciousness of the illusion, the observer of the illusion, the witness of the illusion are all part of the illusion, they're all part of the mirage. • Steven Wollinsky on Nisargadatta We like to inquire into the teachings of the all the great masters and thinkers Often we will just watch a video and discuss it, or a members fav book, there is no dogmatic format,were just a small group interested in truth love and freedom of thoight Join us in our search Out beyond ideas of wrong doing and right doing there is a field. I ll meet you there” Rumi $NZ5.00 if you dont have $5 bring some biscuits :)

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it is very rare to find groups and people who have realised All is One (Not two) .If you are interested in this profound concept, join us

"To understand non-duality is to appreciate that the concepts we use to demarcate the world are human constructions. Things-in-themselves possess neither colour, warmth, wetness or solidity — these attributes are the sense our minds make of reality, a reality which science tells us is, at a “deeper” level, a web of interacting quarks and gluons in multidimensional spacetime. (The scare quotes around “deeper” are there to remind us that the physicist’s description of reality is itself a web of abstract concepts and not necessarily “more real” than the phenomenal world — it’s just a description that’s more useful for certain purposes, less useful for others.)"

"In our everyday life we understand things in terms of their use and value — a chair is something we sit on, food is something we consume — but these attributes only exist through our relations with things and don’t inhere in things themselves. Mental concepts are powerful entities that shape and guide our perception and action. The mind draws borders between countries, even though the Earth seen from space has no boundaries. The Big Dipper materializes in the nighttime sky, even though there’s no Big Dipper in space. The mind creates dualities based on skin colour, religion, and nationality, setting “us” apart from “them.” It establishes ego boundaries separating “mine” from “yours,” and “self” from “other.”"

Manjusree asked, “What is self?” sareeputtra replied, “Self is only a name, and the appearance of a name is empty.” Manjusree said, “Indeed! Indeed! Just as self is only a name, so too Buddha is only a name. Realizing the emptiness of a name is bodhi. One should seek bodhi without using names. The appearance of bodhi is free from words. Why? Because words and bodhi are both empty. Manjusree said,“Furthermore, sareeputtra, you ask me what is called Buddha and how one should observe a Buddha. That which has neither birth nor death, neither names nor appearances, and is neither coming nor going, is called Buddha. As one observes the true reality of one’s own body, in the same way one observes a Buddha. Only the wise can understand that this is called observing a Buddha.”

Though Ramana, , expounded numerous doctrines, as befitted the different states and beliefs of the various devotees who sought refuge at his feet, you should know that what we have heard him affirm to intimate devotees in private, as an act of grace, as his own true experience, is only the doctrine of ajata [non-creation]. (Guru Vachaka Kovai, verse 100)

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