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Re: [mnNORML] Re: [tcCannabisClub] Media Advisory: Jobs Not CutsProtest at Rep. Paulsen Office - Wednesday

From: Kurtis W. H.
Sent on: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 3:31 PM
Jason and all,

I'm saying that I think that we should attack individuals that act against us. We should call them out, bring their actions into the clear light of day, and tell them and everyone else that what they did was wrong. It doesn't have to be in a mean spirited way. We should obviously allow them to articulate their position and then we can articulate ours and then we can allow the readers and voters to decide. I'm just saying that we shouldn't fight against political parties or rhetoric (isms and schisms), we should fight against real life actions by real life individuals. Rhetoric is used when trying to deceive. We don't need to deceive. Arresting a million people a year in the US for possessing cannabis is wrong. Forcing the ones who are put in jail into something akin to slave labor for US Corporations is wrong. Using cannabis laws as modern day Jim Crow laws is wrong. Let's solidify our message amongst ourselves and then approach the public as a unified front. Jason, I don't know who Baudler is and I doubt other people on here do either.


On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Jason Karimi <[address removed]> wrote:
I respectfully interject tin regards to your point of attacking individual opposition to re-legalization.

I was approached and asked to help attack Baudler and declined. I'm glad I did. In our political climate, it was, in my opinion, a bad strategic move to attack Baudler.

Different situations call for different tactics. Just something to keep in mind: be aware of backlash for attacks. We now have a well-connected, powerful senator, who is organizing opposition behind the scenes. This would not have happened had Baudler not been attacked in the way he did. I think we could have strategically acted in a better way in this example situation.

Just my two cents.

Jason Karimi

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Des Moines, Iowa 50313

-----Original Message-----
From: Common Kurt <[address removed]>
Date: Tue, 9 Aug[masked]:24:33
To: <[address removed]>; <[address removed]>
Subject: [mnNORML] Re: [tcCannabisClub] Media Advisory: Jobs Not Cuts
 Protest at Rep. Paulsen Office - Wednesday

Henry and All,

I agree with you about how all of these issues tie in to the mission of ending cannabis prohibition. In the future, we should all try to explain the tie in in our original emails though, so that everyone knows why the issue was brought up. There are Republicans out there that are against the drug war, and there are Democrats out there that represent organizations that want to keep the war on cannabis raging, like Rep. Joe Mullery So, it's ok to target individuals that are against us, no matter what party they are on. Let's all move beyond "isms and schisms" and focus on how people actually act. Let's not allow rhetoric and labels to confuse any of us. Peace is not a partisan issue. We are all human, right? We need to stop putting fellow humans in jail to act as modern day slaves, period. Anyone who doesn't agree with this simple issue is either brainwashed and doesn't know better, or they do know better and are benefiting y the status quo. We are all on one team, and we all must work together and exchange information. Let's all practice communicating and articulating ourselves here and on MN NORML's forums now, so that we can all communicate and articulate ourselves to the general public in a unified way. All members of all political parties are welcome into the fold. We have a big tent. It's ok for us to argue and disagree amongst ourselves, but let's just make sure that we always explain how different articles and emails pertain to the main objective. One Love family. Peace is a daily process. Thanks for joining me in this Iternal dance.


On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 12:48 PM, MoveOn Henry <[address removed] <mailto:[address removed]> > wrote:

With regard to those who replied complaining about "partisan garbage", besides subjecting us to your own partisan opinion (what's that saying about opinions and assholes?) and nothing more, you're missing the point.   District 3 Rep. Erik Paulsen is extremely partisan and does not support even medical marijuana much less an end to the war on drugs.  That's a simple fact, not a vague, partisan opinion or other garbage.
2 other simple facts are that the progressive organizations putting this together do support medical marijuana directly and an end to the war on drugs and even 3rd parties through support for public elections.  Let's stick to reality, not partisan BS that divides us and the organizations that actually support our cause.  Paulsen doesn't support public elections or getting corporate money out of politics.
Other key facts:  War on Drugs started by Nixon, a Republican, expanded and turned into a major political issue by Reagan-Bush, also Republicans.  Republican/conservative run ALEC supports the private prison expansion.  Imprisoned weed smokers/dealers make for safe, cheap labor. <>


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 Sent: Monday, August 08,[masked]:32 PM

 To: [address removed] <mailto:[address removed]>
 Subject: [tcCannabisClub] Media Advisory: Jobs Not Cuts Protest at Rep. Paulsen Office - Wednesday
Political Action
MEDIA ADVISORY FOR                            
Wednesday, August 10, 2011                

Minnesota Residents Protest Against Erik Paulsen's Failure to Provide Jobs
District 3 residents and fellow Minnesotans to protest outside Rep. Paulsen's office.
The ALEC-trained Erik Paulsen has provided cuts and subsidies, not jobs.  Join us to ask Rep. Erik Paulsen:  "Where are the jobs?"  Republicans, whether they brand themselves as conservatives, the tea party, or libertarians, have had 40 years of government spending increases on corporate subsidies, tax loopholes, and tax cuts for the richest.  Their domination over that period of the Supreme Court, Congress, and the Presidency has allowed them to give their corporate campaign buyers constantly lower taxes and provided us with the S&L Crisis during the Reagan-Bush years and the Wall Street Bailout during the Bush, Jr. years.
Where's the benefits?  Where are the jobs?  Why are you cutting the American Dream instead of rebuilding it?
No wonder the corporate-run ALEC was celebrating their 38th anniversary last week in New Orleans by harassing, intimidating, assaulting, and throwing out reporters.
We'll let Rep. Paulsen know that we're holding him accountable for the disgust, frustration, and anger Minnesota and the rest of America is feeling.  That's why we're joining with our partners in the Rebuild the American Dream movement to hold "Jobs Not Cuts" events at district offices nationwide on Wednesday.
Unlike our last visit where we allowed Paulsen's staff to meet with us inside only to have them attempt to misinform us and lie to the press that they weren't allowed, as Paulsen did with his "promise of jobs" campaign, we'll be outside the office making sure District 3 residents know who and why we're protesting.  MoveOn supports full disclosure and transparency, and the media and press are always welcome to record MoveOn events in full, whether we're meeting inside or demonstrating outside.
Status: Public, open for RSVP, 46 registered attendees as of Monday morning.
Registration: for members and for everyone else.
WHAT:           Paulsen "Where are the jobs?" protest 
WHO:             Local,, and District 3
WHERE:        Outside Star Bank, 250 Prairie Center Drive, Eden Prairie
WHEN:           11:30am - 1pm, Tuesday 8/10
***VISUALS: Signs, people wearing boxes, t-shirts, buttons **** Political Action is a political action committee powered by 5 million progressive Americans. We believe in the power of small donors and grassroots action to elect progressive leaders to office and to advance a progressive agenda. We do not accept any donations over $5,000, and the average donation to Political Action is under $100.


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