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December Film Discussion, part 2 of 2: Film Discussion, Dogtooth

General information on the discussion is in Part 1.

The poll for this event is here: http://www.meetup.com/movies-579/polls/953362/

The poll is now closed, and the winner is Dogtooth. While not strictly necessary, the expectation is that you will have seen the film before the Meetup. We will almost certainly get into spoiler territory with the discussion. This film is available by subscription, rental, or purchase on almost all digital streaming services (Netflix, Hulu Plus, Amazon, iTunes, etc.). It is also available via the local library system (plenty of copies, but currently checked out at Worcester Main Library, so you may need to do an interlibrary loan).


For reference, the poll choices were as follows:

• Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans (US, 1927, 95 minutes)

Director: F. W. Mernau

A married farmer falls under the spell of a slatternly woman from the city, who tries to convince him to drown his wife.

In the most recent BFI Sight & Sound poll, this film ranked as the 5th best film of all time. Though still a silent film, it was one of the first films to ever have a pre-recorded soundtrack.

Availability: YouTube (w/ ads), DVD through interlibrary loan

Ashes and Diamonds (Poland, 1958, 110 minutes)

Director: Andrzej Wajda

On the last day of World War II in a small town somewhere in Poland, Polish exiles of war and the occupying Soviet forces confront the beginning of a new day and a new Poland.

Considered to be one of the most important Polish films of all time.

Availability: Hulu Plus, DVD through interlibrary loan

Dogtooth (Greece, 2009, 97 minutes):

Director: Yorgos Lanthimos

About a husband and wife who keep their children ignorant of the world outside their property well into adulthood.

2010 Best foreign language film nominee at the Academy awards, and it won the Prix Un Certain Regard at the 2009 Cannes Film Festival. 

Availability: Almost all streaming services, Local libraries



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  • CherylBene

    Chris, I have seen all 3 movies, and believe that the Movie "Sunrise....A Song for 2 Humans" is interesting only because it was shot at 16 frames per second, the lighting was unique, and the director was innovative. Basically, the technical aspects were of note for pre 1928 films. Yes, It did win Awards as well. The Polish film was like reading a Macro economics text book, very Un-fun ( and I speak some Polish). Nothing Artsy about this. I am very angry with the Dogtooth choice - because of many reasons... one being the onscreen BRUTAL murder and abuse (this was real and not fake) of the "Family" pet, the sexual abuse/ incest and MANY more reasons. Of the thousands of films to choose why was this selected? Animal Abuse is not entertainment.

    December 18, 2013

    • Chris T.

      In investigating the animal cruelty issue, I found this NY Times interview with the director, Yorgos Lanthimos, in which he states "For the record, we did not harm the cat." See http://carpetbagger.b...­

      December 19, 2013

  • Linda

    With the coming snow I am bailing ... bizarre movie

    December 17, 2013

  • CherylBene

    I have viewed all 3 films - and I vote for Sunrise - a Song for 2 Humans.

    December 5, 2013

    • Chris T.

      Dogtooth already won the vote for which film to discuss, but I'm very glad that you enjoyed Sunrise. I first saw it earlier this year and was blown away. Feel free to start a comment thread here or in the forums with your thoughts on Sunrise.

      December 9, 2013

  • Anne M.

    I so, so wish I were free this night -- tius is exactly the type of movie I would love to dissect with folks who talk fluent movie!!!

    December 4, 2013

    • Chris T.

      Click on my name, and it should take you to my profile page. There will be a "Send Email" link there. Also, I *haven't* seen this yet, though it's been on my watchlist for quite a while, so, I'll file your email away, but won't read it until I've seen the movie.

      1 · December 4, 2013

    • Anne M.

      twisted is an understatement - be warned!

      December 4, 2013

  • Leona G.

    I just realized I voted for Dogtooth however I work Tuesday evenings. Perhaps there'll be another opportunity to participate.

    November 27, 2013

    • Chris T.

      If you get a chance to see it before the Meetup, you can send me your thoughts and I can read it for the group. Or you can just post what you thought to the board here. If you do post it here, please do not go into spoilers until *after* the Meetup.

      December 4, 2013

  • Chris T.

    Oh yes, if you want to try and sway the voting, please, use this comment section for that. I think the pre-discussion could be fun.

    From my perspective, I'm mostly neutral (obviously, I only picked movies I want to see). At the time of this comment anyway, the only one I've seen before is Sunrise.

    November 22, 2013

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