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Re: [naturalbuilding-4] Happy New Year from the Chicago Natural Building Meetup!

From: Mark S.
Sent on: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 1:28 PM
But Patrick, just to be clear, I don't come to the group so you won't experience my antagonism personally! But I don't think you'll get very far in Chicago organizing an eco-village with that kind of mentality. I tried organizing something similar a few years ago minus the hardline and got very few takers. But hey, perhaps there's more community among militant vegans. That hasn't been my experience though. And generally people with unbending ideologies tend to fall out with each other sooner or later. That's one reason why we can't have a damn revolution.

-Mark

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Mark Shipley <[address removed]> wrote:
Wow! Vegan ideologues trying to enslave me with their philosophies and force feed me their ideological secretions!

I too would like to only hang out with people who value the necessary role of animals in agricultural and ecological systems and honor the ancient human heritage of the sacred hunt and seek to avoid tillage grain-based agriculture. But I certainly don't demand that luxury! In fact, how many animals were destroyed just to make these computers we're typing on or the ostensible solar panels and wind turbines using to fuel them in the greenest way?

I'm a little shocked actually...

-Mark


On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Chris Kozak <[address removed]> wrote:
Hey Patrick,
If you want to learn the skills to construct your "Vegan ecovillage" then you're more than welcome to learn and may even meet some like-minded folks.  
However, if your membership is contingent upon the group catering to the vegan philosophy, then you have the wrong group.  
I myself plan on enslaving some sister-hens in order to steal their delicious-nutritious reproductive secretions once I have a yard large enough to properly torture them.  

Chris


On Monday, January 7, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Patrick McNurlen wrote:

Hi, my name is Patrick. It seems like every message I get from the natural building meetup makes reference to building a "Chicken Coop". Unless this is to mean some sort of cooperative or rescue operation, I'm assuming it to be an enclosure to facilitate the imprisonment of chickens, the stealing of their reproductive secretions and/or preparing them for killing and feeding to humans and other domesticated animals who will proceed to develop diabetes, cardiovascular disease, cancer, autoimmune diseases, etc as a result of consuming captive animals in place of healthy plant foods.
I joined the natural building meetup because I believe in a nonviolent harmonious future free from PVC and other dangerously toxic synthetic materials. I foresee us building vegan ecovillages here in Chicago and elsewhere. To this end, I want to surround myself with the people that share this peaceful vision and avoid connecting with those who aren't interested. In order to determine if this natural building meetup is an appropriate group for me, please let me know whether or not it encourages or otherwise endorses the status-quo treatment of our non-human brothers and sisters as commodities subject to enslavement, torture and killing.
 
Peace and love,
Patrick




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