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Re: [roleplayers-459] Your vote matters ;)

From: Ramsey
Sent on: Sunday, January 20, 2008 9:25 PM
*chuckles* I'll give you this, you fence divinely,

Ramsey

--- Victoria <[address removed]> wrote:

> I'm not trying to burn any bridges at all- I'm
> trying to cover my own ass.  ;)  Big difference.  
> 
> There's also this- every adult player in any group
> with kids has to suddenly take on the responsibility
> of dealing with underage kids when they're there,
> especially without parental supervision, and that's
> a responsibility I'm not willing to take on when all
> I'm trying to do is enjoy an rpg.  However lax Dutch
> parents may or may not be, there's always the chance
> something could happen, and I'm not willing to risk
> it in any of my games at least- obviously other
> groups can decide what they would like.
> 
> Victoria
> 
> Ramsey <[address removed]> wrote: While this is
> true this simply means that we make
> certain games of a certain age or higher. However I
> do
> not believe this means that children cannot join the
> meetup.
> 
> Perhaps an interesting compromise would be to have
> some kind of informal subgroup that caters to the
> younger players. The aim could be to help younger
> players start games in a proper fashion. Tips on how
> to shape the plot, how to game inexpensively,
> introduce things to new players etc. Or someone
> might
> even arrange a game or two for them. I don't see any
> reason why we should burn any bridges quite well. 
> 
> On an interesting point I believe that in comparison
> with child-parent relations in the US, Dutch parents
> are remarkably lax with their children. I know its
> unfair to make generalized comments about the US but
> in this case it's probably true (most of the time).
> While a parent in the US upon hearing about her 15
> year old hanging around with 20-25 pretending to be
> Elves and Dwarves might decide to have a nice little
> bonfire and put a end to the whole business right on
> time for Church (extreme, but common enough to be
> worrisome, especially in the bible belt) a parent in
> the Netherlands might just say "Be back by 23:00".
> Which is worrisome in its own way of course... I
> mean
> at least MEET the people once. But in anycase the
> attitudes do seem different. 
> 
> An amusing discussion though,
> 
> Ramsey
> 
> --- Victoria  wrote:
> 
> > I have to disagree, having anyone under 18 isn't
> > something I'd really be interested in doing.  Not
> > only would any group with underage players have to
> > deal with the kids' lack of control over their
> > schedules, parental consent issues, etc.., they'd
> > also be looking at censoring games.  I know a lot
> of
> > games I have run and played in in the past have
> > certainly not been suitable for younger kids.  
> > 
> > Victoria
> > 
> > Ramsey  wrote: 
> > Just to play Devils Advocate on the age decision,
> > there are reasons and possibilities in allowing
> > younger people to play.
> > 
> > One interesting part of allowing 12-16s to enter
> is
> > that we are in effect cultivating the next
> > generation
> > of roleplayers. 
> > 
> > While people might be worried that we would get
> > immature players I would like to remind you of a
> few
> > things. 
> > 
> > 1) Roleplaying is not a common hobby, especially
> not
> > in the Netherlands.
> > 
> > 2) We might be playing the games in English
> > 
> > 3) We can always require parental consent for
> people
> > below a certain age (if nobody else volunteers I
> > will
> > call the parents myself).
> > 
> > In any case we're not likely to get many
> adolescents
> > and any immature ones will probably be scared off
> by
> > having to speak English etc. 
> > 
> > till the 26th,
> > 
> > Ramsey
> > 
> > --- yann  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > --------------------­-------------
> > Hi everyone,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The same applies to a decision that I've discussed
> > with Tim. We think that it might be a good idea to
> > restrict access to the group to adolescents and
> > children. What do you think about it? Should we
> > restrict our meetups to say 18+ or maybe 17+ years
> > old
> > 
> > 
> > Anyway, I wish you all a great weekend,
> > 
> > See you later,
> > 
> > Yann
> > 
> 

The filthy monkey... it plans!


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