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Re: [newtech-1] FYI: Sun buys MySQL

From: david w.
Sent on: Thursday, January 24, 2008 3:02 PM
Victor, 

talk about spewing nonsense, you're talking about an open source conspiracy theory!  

you keep talking about how mssql scales so beautifully, but yet you haven't named any sites that use mssql as their core backend database!  how many top 10 sites use mssql?  how many top 10 sites use mysql?   MySQL wins that hands down.

in terms of cost, HOW CAN YOU BEAT $0.00 ?  Developing against MySQL v. Oracle v. UDB v. MSSQL is all the same because all good code has the data access layer abstracted out.  Finally, hiring DBA's are going to cost money plain and simple.  Hiring goods one cost more.   The costs are relatively the same when you break that down.

In the end it comes to licensing costs to organizations.  No organization wants to pay a $40,000/CPU Oracle(UDB, MSSQL) license.

-d



On Jan 23, 2008, at 8:50 PM, Victor Shamanovsky wrote:

That discussion on /. is actually shaping out to be in favor of MSSQL, amazing for /. - the poster child for all wintel hate.
I don't know why it is so hard to see that we have a major old-time behemoth, wolf in a sheep's skin, buying MySQL. OpenOffice is already owned by Sun. Old server piranha trying to muscle into app world in a very fuzzy grass roots way. And we have nice guy from Sun's marketing - Tom, making peace. Yes, Tom, you are doing your job. If there was offical Msft guy here saying anything, Slashdot would be citing Msft conspiracy to infiltrate the newest and the brightest. World would be coming to an end. Well, I am not Msft guy, I am easily identifiable on the web and I am here to have a nice discussion because I enjoy good technology.
 
All the comebacks from the "db" guys, mostly nonsense, yes, there are large mysql implementations, but how much are they COSTING to run and develop against? Mssql scales superbly and is cheap AND easy all things being equal. How soon will the consumer (not pro) realise that lamp is something that is owned by skull and bones concoction of IBM, SUN, Disney? What is the argument going to be at that time?

Enlighten me, please.
 

On Jan 23,[masked]:30 PM, Robert <[address removed]> wrote:
Hey all,

  Throwing myself into the fray...

  MHO..

   I think Sun is shooting for Oracle wannabe.. Oracle' revenue model and product line up works.. so.. what is Sun to do? 

   1. Do more professional services..
   2. Buy a DB.
   3. Buy (Peoplesoft/Siebel) CRM vendor (SugarCRM)
   4. Buy Enterprise infrastructure company (Probably Network Appliance)

   Then.. they will have the same line up as Oracle/IBM and chase after that market which is obviously doing well.  Not to mention be more competitive with a complete lineup.

    Look for Sun to make a CRM + Enterprise infrastructure acquisition soon..

    Mark my words Ladies and Gentleman.

    DISCLOSURE:  I do NOT work for Sun nor work in the M&A field.  although with this analysis.. someone should be giving me a big cut of the M&A action ;-)

Mr. Nobody,
-Robert


  




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