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From: Christopher Porto

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Subject: Re: [newtech-1] voice/flights

content is there or its not whats relevant is how its presented.  i do agree in so far as i prefer to not have my time wasted with slick where the is no content

On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Avi Deitcher <[address removed]> wrote:

I have never been one for slick. I like substance (which changes based on who the audience is).

If you want a great short read on why ppt is awful for presenting information, read Tufte's http://www.amazon.com/Cognitive-Style-PowerPoint-Pitching-Corrupts/dp/0961392169/ref=pd_bbs_sr_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1203697136&sr=8-5

And, Victor, before you start jumping on me for saying some Microsoft product is bad, the same holds true for Presentations from Apple and OpenOffice and Google, etc. The problem is with slides, period.

The Tufte pamphlet is $7 on Amazon. Cheap and a great read.

----- "Christopher Porto" wrote:
> Hey Avi, of all the ppts you have seen who authored the slickest????????
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On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Avi Deitcher <[address removed]> wrote:
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No problem on your cc'ing; my comments on the ppt were pretty tough, I didn't want anyone to think I was being disrespectful of you.
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> Yes, I do indeed know you, and I know you would represent your clients a *lot* better than that.
> Avi

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> ----- "Dean Collins" wrote:
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Lol Avi (and btw I cc'd the list so people don't get the wrong idea),

 

Yes I did use to consult to Tim's last company Mexuar last year. Tim doesn't retain the services of Cognation anymore.

 

I was only posting this as an answer to the airline website question a few days ago ? I do not represent, nor would I market Phone From Here with a deck like that. You guys know I represent my paying clients better that that.

 

To be fair to Tim though, this was a ppt that he gave last week to a panel talking about voice mashups, I'm assuming there was a significant 'verbal' portion to his session.

 

(he's a hell of a developer and a pretty good speaker ? is speaking at both Von and Ecomm next month).

 

Regards,

Dean Collins
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From: Avi Deitcher [mailto:[address removed]]
> > Sent: Friday, 22 February[masked]:44 AM
> > To: Dean Collins
> > Subject: Re: [newtech-1] voice/flights

 

Dean,
> >
> > I hope that isn't his presentation to investors or potential employees. It is 13 slides of very little information, no catch, nothing substantial about what is new. Even if there were, you need much more substance as to how much you want and why.
> >
> > I am sure Tim is great, but, please, help him.
> > Avi
> > ----- "Dean Collins" wrote:
> > >

For the person that was asking about airline web sites.

 

Take a look at the intervoice demo (URL now on the 8th slide), it has lots wrong with it, but it points in the right direction.

http://www.phonefromhere.com/resource/Mobile2.ppt

 

If anyone else wants some details on the Phone From Here voice technology drop me an email and I'll give you more details.

 

Regards,

Dean Collins
> > > Cognation Pty Ltd
> > > [address removed] 
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